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Subject: Road-trainer-stationary bike
How do these translate to each other. Obviously the road is best, but how does a workout on a stationary bike compare with a trainer? The trainer is so, so boring....


2013-08-06 9:58 PM
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how is a stationary bike less boring than a trainer? the trick is making the indoor workout tolerable or "fun"

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It is at the gym, around other people, in an huge room....
2013-08-06 10:14 PM
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have you tried trainer videos or trainerroad.com? just having something to pay attention to which prompts cadence/effort changes helps a lot
2013-08-07 12:01 AM
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I'll admit that riding a trainer is not the world's most fascinating activity, even for some of the twisted minds that frequent this forum. But it can be made a whole lot more tolerable and interesting, and exceedingly effective as a training tool. Some things that help:

-- Fans
-- More fans; yes, the strongest that you can get your hands on
-- A power meter, or a pseudo power-meter (e.g., trainerroad.com, or a well calibrated fluid trainer)
-- Music
-- Or videos; some watch workout videos, e.g., Sufferfest; others keep themselves entertained with movies, e.g., Netflix; I've been working through the Amazon Prime Instant Video collection on the trainer; sometimes I'll watch sporting events while riding, e.g., Tour de France stages

I hated the trainer when I first rode it, but now that I have my setup dialed in, I use it for 98% of my riding, and I prefer it that way. I think it gives me better bike fitness than I'd get from riding outside - I'm a strong climber with almost zero hill training - though it does not do so much for my bike handling skills.

But a good thing about biking is that the training is fairly tranferrable. If you ride for an hour at a HR of 160, then you'll get a fairly similar workout, whether it's outside, on the trainer, or on a bike at the gym.
2013-08-07 5:02 AM
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There is another thread about intervals on the bike at the moment and the problems of doing them on the road. This is where a trainier is great as you can be very specific with your efforts on it. High intensity work helps to pass the boredom too.

My opinion would be a workout on a trainer would be better than a stationary bike as you are riding your own bike which is set up exactly as you like it. Stationary bikes in the gym can be difficult to set up correctly.


2013-08-07 12:04 PM
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i counter bordeom in an indoor trainer by watching IM and Running motivation clips before you know it 1 hr. passed.

2013-08-07 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by katybug34 It is at the gym, around other people, in an huge room....

So how is that less boring? Are you talking about a spin class?

The benefit of the trainer is that you are on your own bike, training with the same fit and feel as you will be racing with. Especially if it's a tri bike. All my trainers rides are on the tri bike.

2013-08-07 12:38 PM
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I do almost all my riding on the trainer now just because it is easier to maintain contact with my family with all the training that I do.  I have my trainer setup in the den and have a big screen on the wall that I watch.  My son is usually playing in there or watching TV with me.

I am happy with my progression and find that I actually am less bored than on some of the outside rides that I occasionally do.  I am on the last of the 79 original episodes of Star Trek.  Not sure where I will turn next.

I'm not a big fan of stationary bikes.  I have owned one that never really got used and I recently gave it away.  Ones that I have used while traveling are better than nothing but feel very different than my bike on the trainer.

2013-08-07 2:29 PM
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Do you mean a "stationary bike" like a Life-cycle/exercise bike? or a spin bike like they use in spin classes? If the gym has spin bikes, then those can be just as good or better than your bike on a trainer (depending on what kind of trainer you have and whether you can change resistance to do intervals).

I would agree that stationary exercise bikes in general don't provide the specificity you need for a real bike workout. But spin bikes definitely can. I've used them a lot and really like them-- but I need more road-handling skills so I do need to get outside more. Also, the saddle on my real bike is way more comfy and I notice it a lot when I'm doing spin workouts.

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Speaking of road handling skills, I just got back from lunch and witnessed one of the poorer displays of such.

I was stopped at a light mid-point on a hill.  Guy bombs by me, through the red light, takes one hand off bars to remove headphone while trying to answer cellphone.  Wobble, wobble, wobble and vears into curb.  He goes flying off the bike and skids down the sidewalk on his hip and forearm.  It was painful to watch.  Was probably a combination of stupidity, inattentiveness, and poor  no road handling skills.

I guess it was a reminder to me that life on the trainer is not the real world and I could stand to use more road time just to keep sharper with my skills.

 



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Originally posted by popsracer
Speaking of road handling skills, I just got back from lunch and witnessed one of the poorer displays of such.

I was stopped at a light mid-point on a hill.  Guy bombs by me, through the red light, takes one hand off bars to remove headphone while trying to answer cellphone.  Wobble, wobble, wobble and vears into curb.  He goes flying off the bike and skids down the sidewalk on his hip and forearm.  It was painful to watch.  Was probably a combination of stupidity, inattentiveness, and poor  no road handling skills.

I guess it was a reminder to me that life on the trainer is not the real world and I could stand to use more road time just to keep sharper with my skills.


Hard to have sympathy for someone like that. I mean, as a human, you feel bad & want the guy to not be seriously hurt, but once you see him get up, you have to think to yourself, "Well, that's Darwin for ya!"

It's the same as the runner who is wearing the big over ear headphones that block out the entire world & they run right into an intersection against a don't walk sign & into the path of a car. I see it happen all the time around here.

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I have had really good indoor training experiences using Spinervals videos - these are high intensity workouts that in my experience really build your skills with high cadence work as well as power. I find them much less boring than watching a regular TV show because I'm actively engaged in the spinning video and the intensity is changing every 30 seconds to a minute. I've done as long as 2 hours on the trainer and haven't been horrendously bored - and I ended up in really good shape for the summer riding season. (This, by the way, is using a trainer rather than stationary bike - I find a big difference between spinning bikes and the trainer, and far prefer the trainer since I'm using my own bike and gearing, and it feels much more like riding on the road - without the downhills and wind in your hair).

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