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2006-07-23 11:07 PM

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Subject: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
So my wife and I were out looking for road bikes this weekend and we were able to find several good bikes for me, but my wife had a really hard time finding bikes at the LBS that even remotely fit her. The problem is it seemed like none of the LBS's carried bikes in the 50-53 cm range . She was rather frustrated with the whole experience. So my question is, where do all the women find their bikes? Any and all advice would be much appreciated. By the way, my wife is 5'4" and we're looking for something under $1000.


2006-07-24 1:42 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?

As a short guy who had no luck at your run of the mill LBS, I eventually found a bike shop that catered to competitive cyclists.  They performed a fitting for me, ordered the frame and built the bike I was interested in owning, with no obligation to actually buy the bike they built if it didnt feel right to me.  It fits like a glove - the rest is history.



Edited by betyoursilver 2006-07-24 1:44 AM
2006-07-24 2:18 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
What he said. Most decent cycle or tri shops will order you anything you want. Your going to spend the money somewhere, they should be eager for your business. Where do you live?

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2006-07-24 6:01 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
betyoursilver - 2006-07-24 2:42 AM

As a short guy who had no luck at your run of the mill LBS, I eventually found a bike shop that catered to competitive cyclists.  They performed a fitting for me, ordered the frame and built the bike I was interested in owning, with no obligation to actually buy the bike they built if it didnt feel right to me.  It fits like a glove - the rest is history.

I had a similar experience.  After determining from an initial fitting session that I needed a 53cm frame, my LBS ordered my Cannondale R700 from the factory - had it in about 10 days.  They did a fitting session at delivery, then another one about thirty days later to double check everything.

Good Luck,

Mark

2006-07-24 6:17 AM
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2006-07-24 7:47 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
I wasn't able to find a bike to purchase in my size at our local shop either.
I ended up purchasing a Trek 1000 WSD(women specific design)at a store in another city. I am 5'2" and my frame is a 48 or 49cm. The saleperson did a mearsurement to find the correct size for me.
Another suggestion is find the bike your want. Example a trek or giant and find a shop that carries that type of bike and get them to order it.
My bike is a road bike and I put tri bars on it. It cost my about 899 canadian dollars.
Good luck.


2006-07-24 8:01 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
Ditto on look for a better LBS. I don't know where you are though, how many good LBS's there may be around. Ask some short women cyclists in your area if you get a chance at a road ride.

As for me, I'm not quite 5'3" with proportionally long legs and a very short torso. My road bike is a 2005 Schwinn Fastback Comp (comp = compact frame design) in size XS. I bought this bike after trying a Trek 1000 and a couple of the Specialized WSD (women's specific design) bikes, all in small sizes, at two different shops. It was good to "test ride" a few to feel the differences.

Once I had selected the Schwinn, my LBS guy and I kept going back and forth between the XS and the S to determine the better fit. The XS won because the shorter top tube allowed a better reach, and would could always put the seat higher to accommodate my legs.

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2006-07-24 8:04 AM
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The bike shop should order whatever you need. Or find another shop.

It won't be hard to find a bike to fit someone of your wife's height.

2006-07-24 8:22 AM
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I actually had the opposite problem, because I am tall I wasn't able to find a bike that fit.  The womens specific frames were all too small and the mens frames weren't the right set up. 

I ended up with a custom made Guru road bike.  One of the local Tri shops fit me, fit me again, then double checked the measurments sent them off to Guru (which is in Canada) and 6 weeks later I had a custom fit road bike.  My original price goal was $1,000 and I went a few hundred over that but I got a bike that fits (I paid extra for personalized paint and decal choice)!  Check out their web site to see if there is a store near you that carries Gurus.

Good luck! 

2006-07-24 8:43 AM
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I agree with what everyone is saying. I'm 5'4 and had a bike shop order me a quintanaroo.
2006-07-24 10:36 AM
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does anyone have the specialized dolche?


2006-07-24 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, we're looking for a road bike. We actually have lots of bike shops around (St. Louis), and some of them seem really good, but only one offered to order in a bike for my wife to try without commiting to buy it. She doesn't really want to commit to buying a bike if she can't really try it out and know the fit is perfect (I can't blame her either).

Some shops offered to provide a 'fitting' once we bought the bike to tweak it to make it fit her, but they really didn't try to find her a great bike for her. They would look at her, say she's a 51, and send her off to test the only 51 they had in the shop. She would come back and say that she was too stretched out on the bike, and they would say something like "Oh, well you must have a short upper body. The bike may look silly but we may be able to put on a shorter stem if you bought it." It's a little frustrating to her that they seemed not to care if the bike really fit her or not.

The other thing that really annoyed both of us actually was that it seemed like the guys who helped me look for my bike were really knowledgable and had years of experience riding, selling, fitting, etc. However, the guys helping my wife always seemed to be the highschoolers that they hired for the summer. They routinely told her all sorts of junk about fit, muscle soreness from the test rides, and seems to degrudge her for not wanting to buy the 'sweet' bike for 3 grand that if she bought it, she would 'totally scream on' (whatever that means. They need to hire some folks that actually know how to sell to women. Plus, my wife isn't about to come back from a test ride and tell a highschooler that her crotch is numb because the seat was way too high and her hips were rocking back and forth).

Anyway, if anyone women could recommend their favorite LBS in St. Louis, that would be great. Also, is it common to have people at the LBS be so uncaring about the fit, or should I expect them to be more willing to change out seets, stems, etc before commiting to a bike?



2006-07-24 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
I'm 5'2 ish. I had no problem, tested the specialized dolce, specialized sequoia, a tiny bianchi, a cannondale, and 2 diff Treks-- all fit reasonably well (except the bianchi which was too small)  but it came down to comfort, and at the time I bought my bike (The Sequoia) I was a new rider and preferred being slightly upright. LBS should be WAY nicer and more accomodating. If they really are treating your wife differently bc she's a woman, that is UNACCEPTABLE.  I'd call the manager and ask when HE (SHE) is available to help your wife, and go in then. If you still get crap, go elsewhere. Have you tried Sunset Cyclery?My friend's friend owns that store, and she went all the way there from Madison (where there is no shortage of excellent bikes) to have him set her up properly...
2006-07-24 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?

   I'm 5'4" and I have the Specialized dolce vita multisport in a 54 cm. I was suprised to fit on a (sort of ) big bike. Maybe because its a womens specific design....it fits differently.

At this LBS they had a few smaller bikes in stock and they also ordered 2 other bikes for me to try.    I only test rode the WSD..  Trek and Specialized.

2006-07-24 11:15 AM
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cluelessdude - 2006-07-24 8:56 AM  They would look at her, say she's a 51, and send her off to test the only 51 they had in the shop. She would come back and say that she was too stretched out on the bike, and they would say something like "Oh, well you must have a short upper body. The bike may look silly but we may be able to put on a shorter stem if you bought it." It's a little frustrating to her that they seemed not to care if the bike really fit her or not.   

 

That pretty much sums up my experience with a regular LBS.  That's why - in the end - none of them got my business.  I've found that the bike shops were all jazzed to help my friend get fitted on a bike, and he's 5'8" and fits on bikes that shops typically carry a lot of.  When it came to me the response was "Ohhh, yeah - y-o-u - well, you know it's the end of the year, and our new models will be in stock soon.  Maybe check back in a couple of weeks."   I got so sick of hearing that excuse.

Back when I was shopping for a bike, I couldn't even find a 48cm in stock in order to test ride, and most stores tried to push a 50 or 51 cm frame on me - for example,  the 50cm Lemond that was on "clearance" which I'm sure they were dying to get it off the showroom floor.  They were willing to swap out everything imaginable to make that bike fit. 

2006-07-24 12:37 PM
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I'm 5'3" and found my Tirreno Razza at Performance Bikes. I was honest with my sales person and told him, "my last bike was a 10-speed. I need an entry level road bike so I can start doing tris. I'll never be Lance Armstrong, so don't even bother showing me anything over $1000." He had 2 bikes in stock for my height and I tested them out and told him which one was more comfortable. He then adjusted it for me as far bringing the seat forward and handlebars back toward me. Wound up buying the bike on sale, got the pedals, shoes, helmet etc all for $800.


2006-07-24 1:45 PM
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I went to about 10 bike shops looking for a small women's bike to try, with results similar to yours, then in frustration eventually sent a plea to my local Tri Club, and a professional fitter/racer (not a salesperson) offered to help. Because he wasn't associated with any particular sales staff, he was completely conscientious about listening to what I wanted, and working with my size. I ended up with a Trek 2100 (43cm) WSD, at his recommendation -- once we picked the bike (based on top tube length, etc.), we picked a shop that had it or would order it (and I got a major TriClub discount). Best of all, he didn't charge me for all that! Although I didn't ride it first, I totally love the bike, and each time I see the head coach of the local tri club, he comments on what a perfect fit it is for me. If you have a local club, you might want to try that, rather than a bike shop who wants your $$.
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2006-07-25 2:26 AM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
My wife is only 5'1'' and we found her a cervelo with 650cm wheels that fit her great. Up until then she had the smallest road bike we could fing but it didn't really fit her. I think her Cervelo is a 47cm? Check out their website. I have since bought a P2sl and we both have been very pleased with the products.
2006-07-25 6:53 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
Why don't you have the sales person that helped you help her?

I had a fitting done at a good shop in Denver, and the fitter looked through catalogues and gave me a list of bikes that would fit me. I ordered it, replaced the stem, and the fit is perfect.
2006-07-25 7:05 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
Keep trying Quuintana Roo makes small bikes and are tri specific.
2006-07-25 9:27 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?

At this time of the year, the small frames tend to be sold out at bike shops.  Try looking early in the spring or talk to a store that you want to deal with and have them order something for her to come in with their spring shipments

Good luck!!



2006-07-25 10:01 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
I am 4 10 so I have you all beat! I have the Trek 1000 as my first bike with 650s but I don't think they do the 650s anymore but I will say the first LBS I worked with were not that helpful...I now go to an LBS that is really great and will order anything for me with no obligation to buy (uh yeah I needed special bike shoes, small clothes...yadda yadda
2006-07-25 10:13 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
I have the opposite problem in that most of the major manufacturers don't make frames big enough for me at 6'8".  I found that Leader Bikes (www.leaderbikestore.com) has larger frames than most companies.  They also have sizes down to 50cm (I believe) in stock.  The down side is that you either have to know how to build your own bike or pay ~100 to have the bike shop build it up for you.  Also, you can't test ride it, unless you live in the San Diego area.
2006-07-25 10:39 PM
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Subject: RE: How are short people supposed to find bikes?
The Trek 1000 comes in a womens specific model (1000 WSD) that goes down to a 43cm frame.


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