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2013-09-04 9:18 AM

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Subject: Added Weight for Bike Training

So here's the question...

Would it be beneficial to add weight (like a bunch of coins in a water bottle) to my bike to make me work harder?  

It is hard for me to put in any extra time on the bike so I am considering different ways to get more out of current bike sessions.  Virtually all of my bike training is done on my commute to and from work.  Sometimes I ride hard, sometimes I don't.  

Just curious what folks might think.



2013-09-04 9:21 AM
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Unless it's hilly, then the added weight won't do much. If you're riding aero, then adding resistance via "un-aero" parts will make a difference -- more spokes, less slippery wheels, loose jersey, etc.
2013-09-04 9:23 AM
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Why not just ride harder?
2013-09-04 9:25 AM
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Not really...

You'll have to either (a) ride longer because it slows you down... you could just tack on an extra few miles, or (b) pedal harder, which you could achieve by spending time in harder gears.

Plus, you risk throwing off your balance, and even potentially damaging your cages/frame. Those water bottle holders and the screw holes weren't meant to hold 10+ lbs.

2013-09-04 9:28 AM
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Originally posted by hoffsquared

Sometimes I ride hard, sometimes I don't.


Go with the former. Or find a route this is mainly mud and sand. Or an alligator-infested marsh.


2013-09-04 9:38 AM
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Ever try doing some intervals in a higher gear?

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2013-09-04 9:39 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyKay Why not just ride harder?

Well...I need to make sure I truly look forward to bike commuting every day.  It's a 50 minute ride.  For about half of it, I can really work hard if I chose to.  But the other half is on roads with traffic.  Working hard and being ultra-alert in traffic is a bit hard.

Maybe I just need to make 2-3 of my commute legs standard training days rather than go by how I'm feeling on a particular day.  I've not tried that yet.

At least I am already as non-aero as I can get with my homemade bucket panniers!

Thanks for the feedback so far everyone!

2013-09-04 11:17 AM
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I understand if you don't want to ride fast while commuting.  Safety first.

So what you can do is use the slowest tires you can find, and put tire liners in them.  If that doesn't provide enough resistance, then wear really baggy clothing to catch more wind resistance.  If that doesn't work, adjust your brakes so they rub.

2013-09-04 5:43 PM
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What I've learned about bike commuting and having a power meter is this.

if you just ride your bike- fairly easily as you would just to commute.  you're getting almost no fitness benefit (no TSS points).  if you ride hard- you can get quite a bit.

for a serious cyclist- 50min isn't a very long ride- especially if half of it is required to be at an easy pace.  So- those other 25 min need to be TT speed.  Some real intense intervals or sustained threshold riding.

I'm wondering if you can turn off your normal commute route and add some 20 mile out and backs, to add an hour a couple times a week, where you're not intensity/speed limited?  Additional volume would certainly help.

or- just enjoy your commute.  Given that you're not a pro, and likely don't make a living on your bike- you really get to just enjoy riding.  Kudos

2013-09-04 6:26 PM
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Nothing to add other than I want to see these homemade panniers!  
2013-09-05 7:08 AM
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Originally posted by RedCorvette

Ever try doing some intervals in a higher gear?

Mark

I do this sometimes but not regularly enough.  The best time is in the morning when I have a clear head and can remember that I want to train.  Afternoon rides are a bit different...as I usually end up processing work events of the day before I remember I should be training.



2013-09-05 7:16 AM
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there is a reason people say aero trumps weight around here.  weight really only matters on hills and resistance for getting up to speed, once you are moving it doesn't really matter.
2013-09-06 7:15 AM
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Originally posted by thebigb Nothing to add other than I want to see these homemade panniers!  

Here are some pics!





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2013-09-06 7:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Added Weight for Bike Training
Originally posted by hoffsquared

Originally posted by JohnnyKay Why not just ride harder?

Well...I need to make sure I truly look forward to bike commuting every day.  It's a 50 minute ride.  For about half of it, I can really work hard if I chose to.  But the other half is on roads with traffic.  Working hard and being ultra-alert in traffic is a bit hard.

Maybe I just need to make 2-3 of my commute legs standard training days rather than go by how I'm feeling on a particular day.  I've not tried that yet.

At least I am already as non-aero as I can get with my homemade bucket panniers!

Thanks for the feedback so far everyone!




I made some of those a few years ago for my commute (bucket panniers). Still holding up great. I used the big square plastic buckets/lids cat litter comes in. Waterproof and it protects stuff quite well. Great for grocery runs, commuting but too unwieldy to tour with. Good on you for the DIY!!

Edit: You posted the pics while I was typing my reply. Mine look almost exactly like those!

Edited by danimal123 2013-09-06 7:40 AM
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