Survivor, Brains Brawn Beauty - will be spoilers (Page 2)

re cop lady, what is it with police to the end??  I get that there's a police culture, but come on.  And police dude sure isn't adhering to any police code.....

thank GOD j'tia is gone.  I bet the producers were tearing their hair out, there has to be a point where they say "ok we have to shake up the tribes, we don't have any challenges for three pathetic players....."

Beauty tribe?  Have to agree, not so much beauty there. Brains, not so much there.  Bout the only accurate one is Brawn

Just caught up, I'm starting to root for Spencer a little bit although it is still too early.  He is playing with a lot of heart, trying so hard but getting nothing from his tribe. And arfter all of that he is able to keep calm and not point fingers even though you know he is completely frustrated. Those ladies were really terrible at that challenge.

That team trying to throw the challenge to get rid of Cliff was horrible! I felt so sorry for Cliff. It was pretty funny to see that they couldn't suck bad enough to lose to the brains team. Ha! 

Yeah, that's a card you play later.  Why would you do anything to weaken your tribe early on for no reason?  That makes no sense.

They keep saying he is a physical threat... but history shows us big guys are not really threats. It's all mental and endurance later in the game. Not that he is short on those, but he is no more a "physical threat" than the other big guy trying to get him out. That cop just seems crooked. He thinks crooked too easily.

As it turned out... it was not a big deal for the tribe... because they wanted cliff out anyway, but they wanted ude out first... which was the right move. You get rid of dude so he can't stick around and sway votes. He was the obvious choice. As it turns out... Cliff would have gone home if he played his idol... but now he still has it. They looked at him, but I don't think they "know" he has one, or he would not have been up. So did he tell them o get the heat off of himself... who knows.

I'm with you on this. His reaction to Lindsey being gone was spot on. Sad that she walked away, because of the "Respect for the game" factor. But if I did nothing and there is one less person in the game, I'd be OK with that.

Lamest quit EVAH! Are you kidding me... she was on a winning tribe. Eating, comfortable, no real dram... and you quite because some dumb chic got under your skin. Without a doubt the lamest move ever... and no, I'm not buying it for a minute that she quit because "she was afraid what she might do"... PALEASE!

Alexis just did not seem to be liked by many... but I'm sorry, her crying afterwards was just plain funny... I didn't even make it to merge... She had no clue. It was not that big of a deal, I did not think she was a huge threat in the game, but they launched her. Never saw it coming. It probably is editing... but without a doubt... those that feel the most secure, are usually the next voted out. that should be a clue... you should be very afraid.

Tony... that dude is just plain shady. To me, he seems like he is a Russel Hantz. He is going way to hard, and being way to flaky. $20 bucks he makes it to final 3 and doesn't win. He isn't going to get the votes with how he is playing now.

Martial arts dude and Spencer are cool. Karate kid is going to be tough down the stretch. He is going to win some immunities.

The worst parts of that episode were watching Trish and Tony talk.    If Trish is really that mean, then I am upset with humanity.  If she thinks she is "playing the game" then I know she's an idiot.  I was embarrassed to even watch it, i can't imagine being there.  I think a person can only tolerate so much b.s. and I don't blame Lindsey for wanting to quit, figuring she probably wouldn't win anyway.   What's the point.  Now, whether I would actually quit.. I am not sure.   The chance at 1 mil is just not important enough to everyone.

Tony - yikes.  That's not game winning relationship building, buddy.  Get it together!  You can think that stuff, but saying it will get you no where.  Also an idiot.

I like Spencer, personally, so surely he won't win. I think Woo is too easily a flipper and others will catch on eventually. 

She didn't... ti was not that big of a deal... more of her just being an idiot... they are not even to the jury yet and Trish is not winning any friends either... I would have just kept my mouth shut and let her be an idiot. Bottom line is Trish wanted to rub in in her face that she "won"... and Lindsey was butt hurt that she was on the wrong side of the vote and her ally was voted out... get over it... that's Survivor. Out wit, out last, out play... never mind, I quit.

Okay, I watched again and I don't know what I was thinking about the Trish/Lindsey confrontation. I still think Trish is crass, but Lindsay was far more rude.  Never mind!

OK, that was pretty stupid. So Sarah is the swing vote... true... but she was too wishy washy and left it out there too long. Tony pitched a good deal... but so what... if you are the swing... then you are not "in control". It means you do not know where you stand with either tribe, and they just want your vote. Decide where you want to be and go. 

Then Cass.... what is her deal? I kinda like her, she isn't doing too bad... but why the insistence on messing with Sahra? And then, for no other reason than you don't want her to be swing... you decide to swing, and screw your whole alliance over... that was a really dumb move. fine you don't like Sarah, but secure the numbers... get one of their out, and then you get sahra next, and still maintain numbers. Didn't seem like the others liked Sahra... that would be easy.... now she is done. Now it's even, now your alliance hates you, and the other one does not really care about you. WTF?

Yes they were probably going to vote Tony or LJ... but the whole theatrics of the two idols... you have TWO idols, and you blow both like that? And... OK, maybe it did actually save one of them, but it was obvious the other alliance discussed the possibility and had another choice ready to go. Ultimately it's fine. They stayed, one of the others left, but if Cass didn't flip... and Sarah did stick to her word.... Jefra would have gone home... down on numbers and two idols gone. 

I'm cool with some excitement... and at this point it still really is... who cares as long as it's not me... but that just seemed like a bunch of boneheaded play by a bunch of people thinking they were brilliant. 

I still like Spencer and Woo. I kinda liked Cass... but she was the one that talked about "people losing their cool"... she lost her cool. Jefra actually isn't playing too bad. LJ and dude are still in it. Tony, Yoga lady, NFL girl, last brain girl, need to go. Cass is losing her charm too. 

We were talking about it at home last night and came to the conclusion that the brains should have been working on someone (Woo was our choice) to build numbers even stronger. It always seems like you need one more person than you think you do. I'm not sure it would have worked, but at that point you minimize Sarah's strength. Or Cass' stupidity. 

One thing I will give Cass, she mentioned that strong people in a less numerous group ought to be concerned, and that in turn flushed the two idols. That may come back to haunt the Brawn alliance in the next few challenges.

That's was Survivor suicide - and Spencer even said that.  You think Tony's tribe will take Cass in as one of their own?  No, she was tool to get them what they wanted and they will dump her as soon as they can.  The tribe she WAS on?  Hate her.

HOWEVER, there is many ways to play Survivor.  If you can flip flop all game and always be the swing vote, then you stick around.  Screw enough people over, they eventually keep you to the finals because you're hated.  Sometimes always being on the outside, and always being the person that people go to to make flip can allow you to last a long time.

Not how I would play, to be honest.  I think you ALWAYS fly just under the radar and occasionally make a "blip".  Then at the right time, make a big move.

Cass got rid of Sarah just because she didn't like how she flaunted her control (which was also Sarah's stupidity, to be honest).  You don't go around bragging how you can control the game (actually, control this ONE vote, is all).  You stay low, hear the proposals, then "sheepishly" make a choice.  No one likes showboats, so that's not the route I would choose to take.

Honestly?  There are have a TON of questionable votes this year.  Many don't make much sense.  I still don't get why you throw a challenge when you are strong to try to get rid of Cliff, who did nothing to nobody. 

I often wonder how much the directors play a role.  The OBVIOUSLY arrange the votes being pulled out of the jar to prolong the suspense.  It's always a tie with one vote left.  Statistics would dictate that once in a while someone would be voted out before all votes are revealed (well, other than when it's overwhelming).  Even if it's 7 vs 1, they will read the "1" vote first or second to scare...

I wonder if the whole Tony saves wha'tshisname and what'shis name saved Tony was their idea to ham it up for the cameras or if the directors told them to do that.  Most people would probably say, I'm going to save myself, and the other guy would say "I will also save myself".

ALSO, I think if you say you have an idol, you don't have to play it.  They will change the vote.  That trick will work ONCE, almost guaranteed.  I would say I have it, then hold onto it, IMO.  It would be a risky move for the other tribe to vote for you anyways after you announce you have it.  BUT the second time?  They may not be so easily fooled.