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2014-03-04 7:33 PM

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I've always been a very skinny guy, and at 21 sometimes I'd like to put on some muscle. With school, work, swim/bike/run, and just life in general..the gym gets pushed to the side (except for my core work and occasional base strength training). Anybody have any tips on gaining some muscle while still heavily training for triathlon? Possible? Any feedback would be appreciated!


2014-03-04 8:15 PM
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I did a few solid years of Ironman training with absolutely NO strength training. Before starting I had no athletic ability (non-running, cycling or swimming background) and was probably as skinny as you. By the completion of my 3rd Ironman my thighs were noticeably larger and I had a V-shape to my back that had come out of nowhere. My chest and arms were quite a bit defined as well. And for the first time in my life I had calves (probably due to a focus on fore-foot striking while running). Everybody's physiology is different but I think a skinny person will inevitably put on a bit of muscle mass. Of course diet is another variable in the equation...

2014-03-04 8:24 PM
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I've been at it with triathlon for 2 years now. I look like an athlete compared to 2 years ago, just no size! guess i shouldnt complain about being skinny though with triathlon!
2014-03-04 8:27 PM
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not to worry, plenty of girls find the 'skinny' guy look sexy
2014-03-04 9:19 PM
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I don't think it's realistic to train even somewhat seriously for HIM or IM and build muscle mass at the same time.
2014-03-04 9:20 PM
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Subject: RE: muscle gain while half ironman/ironman training?

You're not going to put on any serious muscle mass unless you spend a lot of time at the gym working on it and structure your diet accordingly.  Unfortunately that's at odds with getting faster at triathlon.  At some point you have to decide whether you're more interested in improving your triathlon results or looking good at the beach.

For most of my life I was concerned about getting bigger, but came to the realization a few years ago that if I wanted to get better at triathlon I needed to be spending less time at the gym an more time doing  S/B/R.

But just for the record, having a nice set of guns never hurts when trying to make a first impression with the ladies.

Mark

 

 

 



2014-03-04 9:48 PM
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Subject: RE: muscle gain while half ironman/ironman training?
Originally posted by wbattaile

I don't think it's realistic to train even somewhat seriously for HIM or IM and build muscle mass at the same time.


This. You will gain some mass from swimming and biking but if you're pushing 12-20 hour peak weeks, you just aren't going to have time to head to the gym and killing yourself with weights during these weeks and it could make for some difficult/bad workouts if your muscles are still torn up. Swimming 3-4x/week has made my back look great and biking has added a lot of definition to my thighs. Also, if you get super serious, be prepared for the cut veiny look, if you're already skinny.

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2014-03-05 8:43 AM
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Originally posted by Blastman

Originally posted by wbattaile

I don't think it's realistic to train even somewhat seriously for HIM or IM and build muscle mass at the same time.




Which is why I choose to balance my tri hobby w/strength training. I'm 6'0 & can walk around a healthy 145 lbs. That just ain't good for my self-confidence. I weight-train (free weights only) & use creatine. Some two weeks out before a race, I drop weight training & creaine (i.e., excess water). At least in my mind, I'm theoretically faster since I'm lighter on race day

Anyway, nothing wrong w/compromising a little bit of speed by hitting the gym.
2014-03-05 9:45 AM
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I am somewhat in this camp. When I cut out creatine and weights for about 2 months I dropped 15lbs. Sure some of it was water/fat and I ramped cardio up. I think some of it depends on your tri goals. For me, I am not a podium contender, so having some extra muscle/mass is ok and a fair tradeoff for what my tri times might otherwise be. Totally agree though there are only so many hrs in the day and workout time, so its a delicate balance and one that might be best split into season/offseason focus...good luck
2014-03-05 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ilikepizza

I am somewhat in this camp. When I cut out creatine and weights for about 2 months I dropped 15lbs. Sure some of it was water/fat and I ramped cardio up. I think some of it depends on your tri goals. For me, I am not a podium contender, so having some extra muscle/mass is ok and a fair tradeoff for what my tri times might otherwise be. Totally agree though there are only so many hrs in the day and workout time, so its a delicate balance and one that might be best split into season/offseason focus...good luck


definitely! that's my problem. I'm a podium contender so in no way do I want to lose my speed! Sometimes just being very skinny has it's effect on self confidence to me when everyone else around me is bigger than me lol
2014-03-05 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Porfirio

Originally posted by Blastman

Originally posted by wbattaile

I don't think it's realistic to train even somewhat seriously for HIM or IM and build muscle mass at the same time.




Which is why I choose to balance my tri hobby w/strength training. I'm 6'0 & can walk around a healthy 145 lbs. That just ain't good for my self-confidence. I weight-train (free weights only) & use creatine. Some two weeks out before a race, I drop weight training & creaine (i.e., excess water). At least in my mind, I'm theoretically faster since I'm lighter on race day

Anyway, nothing wrong w/compromising a little bit of speed by hitting the gym.


yeah, I try to stay in the gym at least 2 times a week even during heavy triathlon training. I'm 6'1 and 147lbs, very skinny frame. hurts the self confidence sometimes like you stated!


2014-03-05 12:59 PM
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When I decided to ramp it up from OLY to HIM distance a few years ago, I didn't have time for the gym (and at advice of BT Forum, didn't look back). Now I am trying to get back to the gym a few days a week - but I am not shooting for a HIM this season. Depends on your goals. Especially if you aren't going to be on the podium, being comfortable in your skin is OK - even if it means you trade some endurance training for gym time.
2014-03-05 6:06 PM
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I don't really see the point of gaining muscle for the sake of gaining muscle. If you do the IM training, you will get functionally stronger and build all the muscle you need. Cycling will build the legs, swimming the arms, back and lats... some people do core training to help overall.
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