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2006-08-07 4:06 PM

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Subject: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
Here's the dealeo. Been training for weeks for a sprint this weekend. Did a super sprint in July and no problems. BUT - just last Monday experience some hefty ankle pain while running. Been icing and ibuprophening it since and tried to run yesterday (Sunday) for first time since. I hobbled about a 1/2 mile and stopped because every time my right foot hit the ground and subsequently pushed off - OUCH! Soooo went to a sports therapy doc today.

Here's what he said I have --- Achilles insertional tendonitis and retrocalcaneal bursitis. He said he doubts there was any sort of fracture and suggested physical therapy with stretching and ultrasounds etc... which I'll start tomorrow. I told him about my race this weekend and he said if the pain subsides do it. But he also felt that because it hurts just to walk and go up and down stairs that it's unlikely I'd be able to do the run Sunday. And he said ultimately, by running without letting it heal up first (which could take 6 wks), I just will prolong the healing and could add weeks if not months (6-9 is what he said) on to being able to run again.

Crypts!!! Getting old is NOT for sissies!!!
I'm soooo deflated about this... The last week with the pain and not being able to run has put a damper on my 'I'm invincible" mood... but I kept thinking they'd shoot the tendon with some cortizone or something and I'd be all set for Sunday (doc said that's a recipe for disaster with rupturing tendons and that no doctor he knows would administer that shot). Now I'm thinking just can the whole thing... would feel so dopey having to swim and bike then just leave. Get this - my bike speed is at its best lately too!

So what would YOU do??? Race and either do 2/3 and leave or try to do it all albeit walk-hobbling the run OR just save all the brand new gear and do it again next summer? (not too many tri's left here in Northeast WI after Sept).


2006-08-07 4:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
Well, I have sat out all season pretty much because of running/pain issues. You can view my Training Log for the saga.

I did 1 tri in April, and it sucked because I tried to run, and at a 13 minute mile, I got passed by everyone.

I have another tri scheduled for September 17th, and I thought I was going to be able to run a 5K by then... so I signed up. Looks like I will be walking my 5K... and trust me... if I hadn't already paid, I wouldn't be competing.

So, I guess you are in the same situation... except you can't walk.

Moral of the story? I figured it was best to sit out this season and get my running/pain under control, and come back even stronger next year. Why risk even more injury? It's not worth it.
2006-08-07 4:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
Could you find somebody to do the run portion for you? That might be an option.
2006-08-07 4:50 PM
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I've been doing the swim/bike /limp all season. I say do your best swim and bike and hobble/walk  through the run portion the best you can. It stinks watching everyone you passed on the bike fly by you on the run, but it's better than DNS/DNF.

 

2006-08-07 5:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
donmck - 2006-08-07 2:50 PM

I've been doing the swim/bike /limp all season. I say do your best swim and bike and hobble/walk  through the run portion the best you can. It stinks watching everyone you passed on the bike fly by you on the run, but it's better than DNS/DNF.

What???

It's better to walk on an injured leg than to sit it out and heal???

Sometimes I'm amazed at the advice dished out on this website...Truly amazing

2006-08-07 6:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
I would skip it. If you plan on having a future in triathlons what use is it to risk it by racing injured? I have missed my entire season due to a shoulder injury. I know I could breast stroke or even do a slow crawl in the swim but I plan on racing several more years and would rather race healthly than injured. If you want to go to the race maybe you could volunteer at a water station or something but other than that heal. Risking a permanent injury isn't worth it.


2006-08-07 9:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
Rowdy--is that YOU in that picture? You are a laugh riot!
Thanks for the advise. Yeah, don't want permanent damage or an operation in a couple of years to repair stuff I didn't take care of now.
I will see what physical therapy does for me tomorrow and decide later this week. If anything, I may just do 2/3 of it since I have paid. Will see. Maybe it will be a really crappy weather day and then I won't feel so bad...but sucks after having trained ...
At least I feel better than I have in years - especially upper body from swimming. (sorry, I take it your shoulder doesn't do swimming lately).
2006-08-07 9:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
thanks Ksh - can I ask what happened to you with your running? Have you gotten back to it now?
2006-08-07 9:48 PM
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no...not really...no others I know doing it or would even attempt to run.
maybe I should put out an APB at work "Needed Runner for Weekend - Must be Fast!' ;0
2006-08-07 9:49 PM
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The Bear that was very funny!!!
2006-08-07 9:51 PM
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donmuk and madcow...now play nice! I can see both sides of the argument.
Ultimately I want to ensure longevity in my ability to do physical things... bike, ski etc.. so won't do anything to wreck my body -- especially at my ripe ol age as a newbie! ;0


2006-08-07 9:53 PM
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If I were injured I would not want to put myself in a position that could really mess me up for future races. I just finished my first triathlon and I have decided that I will do one next year. I want to be strong in all areas before I do another one. It is going to take me a little while but I'll get there. You need to think wisely about your decisions. Those races will be there for you when your ready
2006-08-07 9:57 PM
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BbMoozer - 2006-08-07 9:46 PM

thanks Ksh - can I ask what happened to you with your running? Have you gotten back to it now?


Oh, it's a saga that started October 2005. Basically bad form, incorrect shoes for my stride, uppping my miles too quickly resulting in lower leg pain.

I have been working with a coach for 3 months now, trying to get it all back together. I just seem to have really right muscles in my lower legs.

Hopefully, someday... I will run a 5K again.

In the end though, it's all about healing and getting better... OVER racing.

2006-08-07 10:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
Yeah, I have really tight achilles in Both legs. I knew that but doc said need to really work on stretching. SOOOO important. I stretch my upper legs and back lots...just not calfs.


I'll see how the next couple days go and post an update.
thanks to all that responded.
2006-08-07 10:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
DO NOT DO IT.

I known people who been suffereing with achilles problems for years. They are slow and painful. I wanted to run a marathon and got teniadas. That is why I bought my bike and started triathloning in the first place. Problem is it would get better no pain but if I walked even 5 miles on it then I would be hurt again for a few days. Needless to say it really hurt me in the long run no pun inteneded. Also streching is what really helped me out since tendons get injuried when the muscles are tight.
2006-08-07 10:42 PM
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madcow - 2006-08-07 6:09 PM
donmck - 2006-08-07 2:50 PM

I've been doing the swim/bike /limp all season. I say do your best swim and bike and hobble/walk  through the run portion the best you can. It stinks watching everyone you passed on the bike fly by you on the run, but it's better than DNS/DNF.

 

What???

It's better to walk on an injured leg than to sit it out and heal???

Sometimes I'm amazed at the advice dished out on this website...Truly amazing

"I told him about my race this weekend and he said if the pain subsides do it."

That was his doctor's advice, are you amazed at that?

BbMoozer, my answer was based on the belief that you wouldn't be just sitting on your butt all week with your leg in a splint if you didn't do the race, that you might actually be capable of walking a few miles, and that you are smart enough not to push past the point of hurting yourself further.

Madcow, you are number one..|..



Edited by donmck 2006-08-07 10:58 PM


2006-08-07 10:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
I gotten that advice and I would have done my race but would still be injruied since you may need some time after pain is gone so it does not come back.
2006-08-07 11:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Should I stay or should I go? - Injured
donmck - 2006-08-07 8:42 PM
madcow - 2006-08-07 6:09 PM
donmck - 2006-08-07 2:50 PM

I've been doing the swim/bike /limp all season. I say do your best swim and bike and hobble/walk  through the run portion the best you can. It stinks watching everyone you passed on the bike fly by you on the run, but it's better than DNS/DNF.

 

What???

It's better to walk on an injured leg than to sit it out and heal???

Sometimes I'm amazed at the advice dished out on this website...Truly amazing

"I told him about my race this weekend and he said if the pain subsides do it."

That was his doctor's advice, are you amazed at that?

BbMoozer, my answer was based on the belief that you wouldn't be just sitting on your butt all week with your leg in a splint if you didn't do the race, that you might actually be capable of walking a few miles, and that you are smart enough not to push past the point of hurting yourself further.

Madcow, you are number one..|..

Read the original post. Her Dr. said that if she doesn't let it heal, then she could be out for 6-9 months.

What I am amazed at is the thinking that it is more honorable to hobble around on a injured leg than to sit out a race or to not finish due to an injury.

BTW, I'm not even going to get into a name calling battle with you

2006-08-07 11:32 PM
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I read the post, the doctor said by running she could be laid up. And honor has nothing to do with what I was suggesting, that she do the race because she so obviously wanted to do it, or with the implication of your SA post, that my advice was amazingly idiotic.

What amazes me are people who feel free to say things over the internet that they wouldn't say to your face. Or do you treat people that way in the real world? If so, I understand why you needed to take up Thai kickboxing.

2006-08-08 12:00 AM
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donmck - 2006-08-07 9:32 PM

I read the post, the doctor said by running she could be laid up. And honor has nothing to do with what I was suggesting, that she do the race because she so obviously wanted to do it, or with the implication of your SA post, that my advice was amazingly idiotic.

What amazes me are people who feel free to say things over the internet that they wouldn't say to your face. Or do you treat people that way in the real world? If so, I understand why you needed to take up Thai kickboxing.

I absolutely would say that to your (anybody's) face and it has nothing to do with kickboxing.

This is Beginnertriathlete.com and when a beginner asks a question, we as a community need to take responsiblity for the answers we give.

"Yeah, you can do it!!!" is not always the best answer, no matter how good our intentions are.

2006-08-08 12:04 AM
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No that isn't me in the picture. It is taken from Super Troopers.

 I would just like to add that when I first started running barefoot I felt an incredible stretch in my Achilles and lower leg area. It was one of the most incredible feelings I ever had. My lower leg was so loose and felt good. When your healed up spend a little time jogging barefoot on the grass and see if that doesn't loosen things up for you.



Edited by Rowdy 2006-08-08 12:07 AM


2006-08-08 1:07 AM
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If the swim and bike don't hurt do the two and bail.

Don't risk long term injury with the leg. I'd be really careful about the swim and bike as well before I did even that section of the sprint. I'd only do them if I had little or no pain. Most can recover fairly quickly no matter your age if you take care of the injury and have good eating habits and get the right amount of rest.
2006-08-08 7:32 AM
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So what would YOU do???

I would do the race, and walk the run. My reasoning would be that since I have an overuse injury, I wouldn't do too much damage by walking 3 miles on it to end the season. I would expect to walk that far during the day anyway. If my doctor didn't say stay off of it completely, would it matter if I was walking on a tri course or just around town?

Now some people might say "Don't ask us. Only you know what you should do.", which would be rude, especially since this is a forum for discussing triathlon issues, but the truth is, only you know how you feel and I'm sure you wouldn't do anything to hurt yourself.

Of course, if you are completely risk averse you could play it safe and just lay around for the next six weeks or so, and you could be reasonably sure that you won't hurt yourself more than you already have. Couch potatoes rarely hurt themselves, but if you want to live more than that it will involve risks.

So, I'm not offering advice, I'm just telling you what I would do. I would swim/bike/walk.  It may be risky, but it's probably safer than walking up to a complete stranger and being a total jerk, which some here claim they would do.

 

2006-08-08 8:13 AM
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If you are already registered and there is not too much pain, give it a shot if the prospect of walking does not bother you.  However, if you havent signed up yet, call it a season and focus on biking and swimming until that thing heals up.  You will gain plenty aerobic benefit from staying focused on those.  I have been having some achilles issues the past few weeks and am trying to stay away from the run until my race Sunday (maybe just a test jog on Friday).  Good luck either way!
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