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2014-06-10 10:07 AM

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Subject: Apollo Ohno's Sub 5 finish
Apollo went just under the 5-hour barrier at Boise this weekend. Having the pedigree he does as a former olympic speed skater and did swim competitively when he was young I think he is far from his performing at his peak potential this year.

Boise
Swim - 32:xx
Bike; 2:30:xx
Run - 1:52:xx
Overall- 4:59:xx

He has all summer to learn how to fuel and pace for Kona. He is a former olympian so he obviously has the drive and motivation to really push himself, and probably has a fair amount of time to train 15-20 hours a week.

Thoughts to what he can do in Kona?

Purely speculation but I bet he can be in the range of these numbers

Swim - 1:05 or under
Bike - 5:15 +/- 10 mins
Run - 4:00 or under (approx 9:10 min/mile pace)

And he has PNF as his coach.


2014-06-10 10:10 AM
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Looked like he was carrying some weight around his midsection so I imagine he'll slim down as well to improve his numbers. His bike split was most impressive.
2014-06-10 10:23 AM
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Very solid performance, especially considering that 1:52 run...

2014-06-10 11:27 AM
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Very solid performance, especially considering that 1:52 run...




Yeah that 1:52 is the scary part, definitely a product of a sub-par run given it was his first triathlon ever. He tunes that to his fitness level and we are looking at a 4:45 or lower performance for a first-time triathlete at a 70.3 race. Dude is gonna smash Kona for a new athlete in the sport. 23rd out of 138 in his AG too, not bad...not bad at all.
2014-06-10 12:35 PM
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I think Ohno was a great choice for to be a chocolate milk athlete.  I know it's all in fun, but it's a bit silly to try and predict his performance at Kona when we really don't even know what his motivation is going in.  I think he has the potential do to quite well, but I just think it's great that he's creating positive publicity for our sport.  I'll be there in October to cheer him and a few of my friends on.

 

2014-06-10 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jason N

I think Ohno was a great choice for to be a chocolate milk athlete.  I know it's all in fun, but it's a bit silly to try and predict his performance at Kona when we really don't even know what his motivation is going in.  I think he has the potential do to quite well, but I just think it's great that he's creating positive publicity for our sport.  I'll be there in October to cheer him and a few of my friends on.

 




the highlighted is key for me, there are so many people and moaning about it on various discussions that its kind of fustrating to see - but as I see it, anything that brings public attention to a sport that is fairly unpublicized (in terms of shown on TV, spectators that are not family etc), I'm all for


2014-06-10 9:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jason N

I think Ohno was a great choice for to be a chocolate milk athlete.  I know it's all in fun, but it's a bit silly to try and predict his performance at Kona when we really don't even know what his motivation is going in.  I think he has the potential do to quite well, but I just think it's great that he's creating positive publicity for our sport.  I'll be there in October to cheer him and a few of my friends on.

 




Don't know his motivation yes. But for the most part olympic gold medalists don't just half a$$ races and training. And yes I agree positive publicity is good.

Enjoy Kona, the Hawaiian Ironman is 10x what any other Ironman is.
2014-06-10 11:09 PM
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Swim - 1:05 or under
Bike - 5:15 +/- 10 mins
Run - 4:00 or under (approx 9:10 min/mile pace)

Boise was with a wetsuit, so I think his swim might be more like 1:10 at Kona.  And with a first try at Kona, the heat and wind will probably slow his bike pace.  He certainly didn't deal with heat in his sport of choice

2014-06-11 8:35 AM
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The heavy salt water content should serve as a good replacement for his wetsuit and allow for better range in his stroke. Add that with a fast group overall i think he can tow around for 1:05, especially since he said he really struggled in Boise and swam a 32.

He ran a 3:2x:xx New York Marathon so he certainly has the ability to run sub-4. Heat is another issue, but if its anything like last year heat and wind will be a non-factor.
2014-06-11 9:04 AM
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If he's actually run a 3:2x NYC marathon, he really overcooked it on the bike on the HIM.

2014-06-11 9:16 AM
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If he's actually run a 3:2x NYC marathon, he really overcooked it on the bike on the HIM.




He admits to doing exactly that, the adrenaline of the race got to him. His 1:50 half was nearly 10 minutes slower than his open half time


2014-06-11 9:23 AM
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Originally posted by spudone

Swim - 1:05 or under
Bike - 5:15 +/- 10 mins
Run - 4:00 or under (approx 9:10 min/mile pace)

Boise was with a wetsuit, so I think his swim might be more like 1:10 at Kona.  And with a first try at Kona, the heat and wind will probably slow his bike pace.  He certainly didn't deal with heat in his sport of choice

Yep.  How he can handle heat is the biggest question mark for Kona.  Far more experienced triathletes have melted on that course.

2014-06-11 10:30 AM
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I am glad an Olympian did very well in a HIM and a bright future in Kona...... I am wondering what happend to the Tri career of Brendan Hansen ??
2014-06-11 1:34 PM
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Originally posted by bcagle25 The heavy salt water content should serve as a good replacement for his wetsuit and allow for better range in his stroke. Add that with a fast group overall i think he can tow around for 1:05, especially since he said he really struggled in Boise and swam a 32. He ran a 3:2x:xx New York Marathon so he certainly has the ability to run sub-4. Heat is another issue, but if its anything like last year heat and wind will be a non-factor.

My guess is he'll swim closer to 1:10 just to avoid the scrum at the front.  1:00-1:05 seems to be the roughest and most brutal area of the Kona swim.  Or at least that would be my advice if I was his coach.  When I got to race last year, I swam 1:13 (my best non wetsuit HIM swim is 38:XX), and I was in the middle of the biggest draft pack I could imagine...yet there was fairly minimal contact.  The guys I talked to that swam closer to an hour said it was like MMA.

After that...I have no idea what he'll do.

2014-06-11 2:51 PM
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Originally posted by bcagle25 The heavy salt water content should serve as a good replacement for his wetsuit and allow for better range in his stroke. Add that with a fast group overall i think he can tow around for 1:05, especially since he said he really struggled in Boise and swam a 32. He ran a 3:2x:xx New York Marathon so he certainly has the ability to run sub-4. Heat is another issue, but if its anything like last year heat and wind will be a non-factor.

My guess is he'll swim closer to 1:10 just to avoid the scrum at the front.  1:00-1:05 seems to be the roughest and most brutal area of the Kona swim.  Or at least that would be my advice if I was his coach.  When I got to race last year, I swam 1:13 (my best non wetsuit HIM swim is 38:XX), and I was in the middle of the biggest draft pack I could imagine...yet there was fairly minimal contact.  The guys I talked to that swam closer to an hour said it was like MMA.

After that...I have no idea what he'll do.




I feel that this past years swim at Kona was an anomaly, or maybe just a result of that added athletes. Everyone talked about how brutal the swim was, I talked to a lot of the Kona vets at the Zoot party the night after and everyone said it was the worst swim ever. That said, maybe it will be just as bad this year. Time will tell, but I am intrigued to see how Apollo holds up, he definitely has the engine and drive to do quite well in Kona.
2014-06-11 9:35 PM
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Yeah, when I saw 2:30/1:52, my first thought was overcooked bike. Even still, sub 5 on a first effort. . . kudos.



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