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2006-08-16 10:12 PM

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Subject: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition
this evening. Not as hard as I expected, and I have regular three buckle road shoes.

Anyone else using this method here ? I was inspired to practice by my local bike training partner who is training for IM who tried this trick in his last HIM on race day for the first time to no avail.


2006-08-17 7:25 AM
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what are you exactly doing when you do this transition? I have also wondering how to do this...

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2006-08-17 8:34 AM
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Are you talking about getting in or out?  When I am at the end of my ridding sessions, I try to practice the T2 part of getting off/out of my shoes while still pedaling.  Now, having you shoes clipped in and getting on the bike is still a little difficult for me.  If you have any adivce, help a brother out
2006-08-17 8:51 AM
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2006-08-17 9:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition
I have been practicing the shoe clipped on pedals for both T1 and T2 after seeing it done at some duathlons. I have yet to try it in actual race conditions. The newest improvement to the routine for me has been to put my foot into the shoe as I kick off on the bike. Getting the second foot in while pedalling is a challenge and I normally have to stop pedalling, hold the shoe and slip my foot in.

Not sure about using a rubberband to hold the shoe level. Can you explain that one further?
2006-08-17 9:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition

Basically break a rubberband than tie it thru the loop of your shoe on to the chainstay. Here is alink that shows it:

http://www.trigearreview.com/forms/Article.aspx?REVID=217



2006-08-17 9:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition

Z-dog - 2006-08-16 10:12 PM this evening. Not as hard as I expected, and I have regular three buckle road shoes. Anyone else using this method here ? I was inspired to practice by my local bike training partner who is training for IM who tried this trick in his last HIM on race day for the first time to no avail.

It's a lot easier with single-strap triathlon shoes which are designed expressly for this purpose. Make sure you have it down pat before taking it out on the course on race day, don't want to be a hindrance to the other racers.

Not crucial on an HIM like your TP tired, but certainly helps on sprints and super sprints like the 400/10/2 I'm doing this weekend, where every second counts.

2006-08-17 9:45 AM
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This thread is just screaming for my attention.  I posted this in my log earlier in the week.  I wasn't going to post it in the forums because there is only so much ridicule I wanted to take, but I just can't not post it here in a thread talking about it.  So here goes. 

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Ok, I was telling someone this story yesterday and realized I should put it in my log so all y'all can make fun of me.  Last Friday night I decided to practice jumping on the bike out of T1.  So I'm considering the ridicule I would suffer (brutal and endless) if my neighbors watched me do this out front of my house but I didn't have time to go ride somewhere and practice it.  I decided to go on the bike path behind my house and do it there.  That part worked out just fine.  So I start running barefoot, grab the handlebars and attempt to vault myself onto the seat.  Everything is ok so far.  I land on the seat and, um, how do I put this?  There is something between my sit bones and the seat.  Rhymes with "rest tickle".  Yeah, one of those.  PAIN!  So I coast to a stop and wait until I recover my breath and the tears stop streaming down my face.  Now I'm REALLY glad I'm doing this back here where nobody (I hope) is watching.  I now have a new technique where I jump and land on the back of my right thigh, put my feet on the pedals and GENTLY shift my rear end into position.  Much better. 

2006-08-17 10:42 AM
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Thanks Hangloose,
2006-08-17 11:39 AM
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Okay I don't know if anyone is still responding to this thread, but here's a second question. Coming into T2 I want to ride on the tops of my shoes and hop off entering T2 barefoot. Once I hop of my shoes move around and occaisonally one will hit the ground and fly off. Am I doing this right, any advice, thanks guys.
2006-08-17 12:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition

Only way to avoid it is to pick up your bike and carry it. Works if it's not too far to your rack. 

OcrMatt - 2006-08-17 12:39 PM Okay I don't know if anyone is still responding to this thread, but here's a second question. Coming into T2 I want to ride on the tops of my shoes and hop off entering T2 barefoot. Once I hop of my shoes move around and occaisonally one will hit the ground and fly off. Am I doing this right, any advice, thanks guys.



2006-08-17 12:18 PM
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OcrMatt - 2006-08-17 11:39 AM Okay I don't know if anyone is still responding to this thread, but here's a second question. Coming into T2 I want to ride on the tops of my shoes and hop off entering T2 barefoot. Once I hop of my shoes move around and occaisonally one will hit the ground and fly off. Am I doing this right, any advice, thanks guys.

I would think that keeping the bike straight and not letting the shoe take sideways or downward pressure would prevent that.  I've been running with my right hand on the seatpost and lifting slightly (left hand on left hood) and that gives the shoes almost enough clearance.  When they do hit it is not very hard and I absorb the shock with my arm.  Almost like carrying the bike but not as much work and maybe faster?

 

2006-08-17 1:28 PM
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Awesome, thanks for the advice guys. I'll have to go out and try that tonight. I figured there was a simple solution.
2006-08-17 9:39 PM
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nuorder - 2006-08-17 6:25 AM

what are you exactly doing when you do this transition? I have also wondering how to do this...

Rob




I am practicing getting out of transition barefoot and jumping on the bike so I don't have to waddle thru T1 and risk breaking my *ss if I fall because of the slippery soles.

My only rule of thumb so far (practiced again today), I always clip in on the left side first, so all i need to do is start by pushing off with my left foot ON TOP of the shoe and then start pedaling. I can slip my feet in although sometimes I have to bend down for a sec and tip the shoe forward to get the right foot in. Tri Geek warning : If you just jump on and start pedaling with both shoes hanging down, you will llikely lose one or both shoes after one to two pedal revolutions.

It is not too hard to get away from T1 cleanly without running in bike shoes. As far as entering T2, I plan to reverse the procedure without much effort. Getting shoes on is harder than getting them off. Riding with feet on top of the shoes is not difficult.

I would not attempt this on race day unless you are comfortable with it. Dropping a shoe will definitely cause problems....

GOOD LUCK to everyone trying this,

Edited by Z-dog 2006-08-17 9:41 PM
2006-08-17 10:43 PM
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write your name on your shoes, if they do pop off while transitioning then someone will no doubt keep it at the finish tent and you will be able to collect it when done. But, like the others said, they will probably bounce around and hit the ground a little but don`t worry about it, just lift the bike slightly while you are running to T2.  Tri specific bike shoes are best for these moves, they have only one or two strapes plus the hoop on the back of the shoe to put your finger thru. Good luck, it`s fun to get it right and do it, but make sure you practise alot before doing it in a race.

2007-04-02 4:28 PM
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BUMP!

I like bumping old threads and since people are starting to ask transition questions as we get nearer to race season I thought this would be a good one.  It is informative and contains a story that ends with me in severe pain which most people usually enjoy.

 



2007-04-02 4:34 PM
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I just posted this in another thread, but here goes, this thing is called a transition hook, works awesome, and is a lot easier than the rubberband thing, altough you CAN use rubberbands with this thing.

 

http://store.mdwsports.com/transitionhook.html 

 

 

2007-04-02 4:45 PM
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hangloose - 2007-04-02 2:28 PM

BUMP!

I like bumping old threads and since people are starting to ask transition questions as we get nearer to race season I thought this would be a good one. It is informative and contains a story that ends with me in severe pain which most people usually enjoy. 

Thanks.  I remember this thread, but I enjoyed the laugh again.

Plus, this time I can read it and kinda relate, as I just got clipless pedals and bike shoes.

I wonder whether I should attempt practicing this, since I'm still pretty new to clipless to begin with? 

2007-04-02 5:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Taught myself the "shoe clipped on pedals" transition
Does anyone swing one leg over their bike standing on one peddle when you are coming into t2?

I made a quick attempt at this and though better of it.

Any suggestions?
2007-04-02 5:04 PM
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runpuddrun - 2007-04-02 5:34 PM

I just posted this in another thread, but here goes, this thing is called a transition hook, works awesome, and is a lot easier than the rubberband thing, altough you CAN use rubberbands with this thing.

http://store.mdwsports.com/transitionhook.html



isn't that just a hair tie and a zip tie?
2007-04-02 5:10 PM
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well, it's actually an attachment that zip-ties to your bike and then you use a band to attach your shoes to your frame.


2007-04-02 5:48 PM
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Since this thread has been re-energized, I'd like to ask a question.  Can the shoes on the bike out of T1 be done if there is almost an immediate hill out of transition?  i.e., how much distance do you guys travel before your feet are securely in your shoes?  Thanks!
2007-04-02 5:52 PM
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drdi - 2007-04-02 4:48 PM Since this thread has been re-energized, I'd like to ask a question.  Can the shoes on the bike out of T1 be done if there is almost an immediate hill out of transition?  i.e., how much distance do you guys travel before your feet are securely in your shoes?  Thanks!

Heh...on a good day?  Tenth of a mile.  On a rough day?  Half mile.  For me it just depends.  I usually take my time.  Once I'm on the bike pedalling with feet on the shoes, I just pedal along until I get a good straight away, maybe slightly downhill.  Reach down, get foot in shoe.  Pedal pedal pedal.  Next straight away--other foot in shoe.  Pedal pedal pedal.  Next straight away--velcro first shoe and MAYBE second shoe but sometimes it waits for another straight away.

I KNOW I need to work on this...

2007-04-02 5:53 PM
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So, here's my question...do the rubber bands automatically break?  I thought I've heard some folks talk about seeing people out there pedaling along with rubber bands adding resistance.  How do you make sure they break?  I have usually just not used bands and tried to pedal--but I often end up almost crashing if I don't pedal JUST right and keep the shoes off the ground.

Help!

2007-04-02 7:53 PM
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I too used rubberbands in the past. sometimes they dont' break, sometimes they break and snap at your ankles and hurt like . The link I upped solves that problem.
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