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2006-11-16 4:47 PM

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FRANCE!!!! i guess if the irish can deal with having a pint without a smoke, the french can deal with having an cafe au lait without one.

France to Go Smokefree
Restaurants, bars, and nightclubs given until January 2008

France, 11/16/06-- It's official. Today, France published details of its new smokefree workplace decree. Beginning February 1, 2007, workplaces other than restaurants, bars and nightclubs, must be smokefree. Beginning January 1, 2008, restaurants, bars, and nightclubs have to be smokefree. The law also requires the outdoor areas of educational institutions other than universities to be smokefree.

"Congratulations to the French government for recognizing that workers deserve protection from cancer-causing substances in the workplace," says Joe Cherner, president of SmokeFree Educational Services, Inc. "We only wish that restaurant, bar, and nightclub workers were covered sooner."

France joins Ireland, Italy, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland, Wales, Norway, Sweden, Finland, New Zealand, Bermuda, Uganda, Malta, Uruguay, Hong Kong, and Bhutan in enacting comprehensive smokefree workplace legislation, including smokefree restaurants and bars.

(from smokefree.net)


2006-11-16 5:32 PM
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It's smokefree in all the above here in California. I just looooovvve it! Gone are the days when you have to fumegate your clothes after going to a club or dinner. Oh wait, gone are my days of going to any clubs ( replaced by PBS Goodnight Show). But I still like it.
2006-11-16 7:53 PM
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that sounds familiar! i used to get ready to go out around 10pm. now i'm asleep by then...after reading chapters from charlotte's web and the like, and some indulgent 'grown up' time watching 'the office' and drinking wine...and falling asleep. woo hoo!
2006-11-16 8:09 PM
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Wow! So if I read that right, they were allowed to smoke in the workplace until now? If so, that's amazing. I can't believe that. Crazy.

I used to be a smoke many years ago but now I can't stand the smell of it. I always hated coming home from a restaurant or bar or club and stinking like smoke. I could not go to sleep like that and had to take a shower and get that smell out of my body and hair.

Anyway, I'm sure there are lots of folks in France all up in arms over this.
2006-11-16 8:10 PM
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And tonight is a late night; gotta stay up to see McDreamy on Grey's Anatomy at 9:00 PST.
2006-11-16 8:19 PM
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2006-11-17 9:49 AM
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WE WIN!!!!!! (People with lungs, that is). I would have thought France would be the last to give in. Clean air in the rest of the world in now just a formality.


Yah!!!

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edit - yes there are still many places where smoking is allowed in the workplace. Last time I was in London, people had no smoking signs in their offices to let colleaugues know not to light up.

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2006-11-17 9:56 AM
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You didn't really expect the French to stand their ground now did you? 
2006-11-17 10:08 AM
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Now, we just need to legislate that they bathe more than once a month, use deodorant, and their evolution will be complete.

 

2006-11-17 10:18 AM
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cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 10:08 AM

Now, we just need to legislate that they bathe more than once a month, use deodorant, and their evolution will be complete.

Someone has obviously not seen nor smelled the Parisian women (that aren't 85 years old).  Dude, if you want to see sexy, you need to get there ASAP.  They're HOTT.  Venezuela ain't too shabby either but you're far more likely to be shot on the street there. 

2006-11-17 10:42 AM
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I have to go to Paris for work about once a month and most of the people I meet smoke in their office. They often ask me if I mind and I invariably say I don't because I'm English and we don't say what we mean we say what we think the other person wants to hear….

I was talking to a Parisian colleague the other day and he has no intention of stopping and neither do any of his colleagues.



2006-11-17 10:47 AM
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Matchman - 2006-11-17 10:18 AM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 10:08 AM

Now, we just need to legislate that they bathe more than once a month, use deodorant, and their evolution will be complete.

Someone has obviously not seen nor smelled the Parisian women (that aren't 85 years old).  Dude, if you want to see sexy, you need to get there ASAP.  They're HOTT.  Venezuela ain't too shabby either but you're far more likely to be shot on the street there. 

 

 

Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!

2006-11-17 10:56 AM
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cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 4:47 PM
Matchman - 2006-11-17 10:18 AM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 10:08 AM

Now, we just need to legislate that they bathe more than once a month, use deodorant, and their evolution will be complete.

Someone has obviously not seen nor smelled the Parisian women (that aren't 85 years old).  Dude, if you want to see sexy, you need to get there ASAP.  They're HOTT.  Venezuela ain't too shabby either but you're far more likely to be shot on the street there. 

 

 

Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!

Take a breath mate - you've had a pop at the French and now you've lobbed "many Europeans" into the mix.  I'm happy to report and after conducting far lenghtier and extensive research than you ever will that the vast majority of Europeans - including the French - are just as hygenic as the rest of the modern world.

I mean, I had a bath on Tuesday and it wasn't even my birthday.  I even got out of it to take a .  You can't get more diligently hygenic than that.

2006-11-17 10:57 AM
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cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 11:47 AM
Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!



I was wondering what happened to CoJ recently! Glad to see it's back to what it was! What is this place without its considered commentary!
2006-11-17 12:38 PM
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Opus - 2006-11-17 10:57 AM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 11:47 AM Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!

 

I was wondering what happened to CoJ recently! Glad to see it's back to what it was! What is this place without its considered commentary!

 

Thanks. I just love toilet humor.

 

2006-11-17 12:39 PM
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cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 1:38 PM

Opus - 2006-11-17 10:57 AM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 11:47 AM Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!

 

I was wondering what happened to CoJ recently! Glad to see it's back to what it was! What is this place without its considered commentary!

 

Thanks. I just love toilet humor.

 



Yeah, me too. Although I have to admit, I don't really see the appeal of a rocking toilet.


2006-11-17 1:29 PM
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Opus - 2006-11-17 12:39 PM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 1:38 PM
Opus - 2006-11-17 10:57 AM
cerveloP3 - 2006-11-17 11:47 AM Been to Paris NUMEROUS times. I LOVE the smell of BO and Urine on the subway. That was my point. Many Europeans use cologne and perfume avery day without bathing and it is obnoxious.  About the cleanest people in the sense of hygiene that I have met are the Japanese. The toilets rock over there!!!!

 

I was wondering what happened to CoJ recently! Glad to see it's back to what it was! What is this place without its considered commentary!

 

Thanks. I just love toilet humor.

 

Yeah, me too. Although I have to admit, I don't really see the appeal of a rocking toilet.

 

 

Just depends what it does!!! The Toto Washlet is just simply awesome.

 

http://www.washlet.com/default.asp

 

 

2006-11-17 1:31 PM
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okay, that was probably the most fantastic hijack i have ever seen. good work guys! french smoking === japanese toilets. wow.
2006-11-17 1:34 PM
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i wonder what kind of reinforcement there will be of the law. i know in australia, a business was sued and lost by a non-smoker employee who developed lung cancer from workplace second hand smoke. could be that countries are passing these laws to a) protect the public and b) protect businesses and their own butts from lawsuits (i love politics). my guess is that if there is a law saying 'no smoking' and people still do, they can only sue each other...not the business or the state. hmmm.
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2006-11-17 2:48 PM
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Sacre bleu...no smoking in France? Wow! I remember smoking and having coffee in Paris...seemed 'so French'... but I quit smoking over 10 years ago.

And French people are clean - ok so maybe the entire world is not like the US where people shower daily or in some cases 2 times daily but they are clean. Think bidet?

Besides... the French have wonderful bread, culture, and the French I've known are warm, kind hearts with a great sense of humor.



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BbMoozer - 2006-11-17 3:48 PM

Sacre bleu...no smoking in France? Wow! I remember smoking and having coffee in Paris...seemed 'so French'... but I quit smoking over 10 years ago.

And French people are clean - ok so maybe the entire world is not like the US where people shower daily or in some cases 2 times daily but they are clean. Think bidet?

Besides... the French have wonderful bread, culture, and the French I've known are warm, kind hearts with a great sense of humor.



I'm with you, but it's a losing battle, brother. I've had this discussion more than once, always with disappointing results.
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