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2004-08-09 4:51 PM

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To me, it's a very sad day in our society when 6 people are beat to death with alluminum baseball bats over an X-box. I know people are killed everyday over trivial things, but for some reason, this seems particularly disturbing for me. The story said that most of the victims were killed while they slept. The victim who had evicted the killers from her Grandparent's winter home, was beaten so bad that dental records couldn't even ID her. We have reached a sad place when an X-box and a few clothes are reason to kill 6 people.


2004-08-09 4:53 PM
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I found this to be profoundly saddening also. I tease my fiance about his paronia about crime and such, but geez; maybe he's right.

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2004-08-09 4:56 PM
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if you missed the story here is a link to it

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040808/D84B8AE80.html
2004-08-09 5:20 PM
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2004-08-09 6:49 PM
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Lara,

I love your reaction to this story. Taking responsibility for your children is a first priority. And sometimes parents need a little help as well.

When I graduated from college there were five women there and my dad. The women were: my mother, my grandmother, my next door neighbor Mrs. Murray, my down the street neighbor Mrs. Clark and my down the street neighbor Mrs. Clay. All five women helped to raise me. Growing up on the South Side of Chicago there were plenty of "wrong crowds," for me to join. But I never had a chance because as soon as I even thought about doing something wrong these women and their husbands would correct me pronto.

When I was 12 and decided I wanted to smoke a cigarrette my mother wasn't home but Mrs. Murray was and that was the end of my smoking career. My mom gave them permission to discipline me as she would. All these women looked out for me just as my parents looked out for their children. Being a parent isn't a two-man job it's a global job and we all need to do our part for our sake and the sake of our society.

Thanks Lara for doing your part. Ovetta.

2004-08-09 11:26 PM
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Ovetta,

I love your story....I really love it.....You're right on....I wish more people weren't afraid to get involved....ultimately it's the parent who's responsible but it takes a community to round it out......



2004-08-10 1:27 AM
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Lara,
I teach kids both privately and in the public schools. I see the difference in kids with involved parents and uninvolved parents. You and parents like you are on the right track. That's not to say kids in difficult situations are hopeless but they have a tougher row to hoe. Keep up the good work.
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2004-08-10 8:28 AM
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My wife and I were talking about this last night and she said that as horrible as this was, that she was not totally shocked. She is also a public school teacher and through the years she's taught a lot of troubled kids, most of whom came from very disfunctional homes. She has had several students over the years who have ended up in prison or dead.

Like Lara, I am reminded of the importance of investing our lives in our children. I think too often we deceive ourselves that it's okay that we don't spend much time with our kids because the time we do spend with them is "quality" time. A very wise man once taught me that you cannot create quality time. It just seems to happen. You have to spend as much time as possible with your kids so that you are there when quality time happens. Many times, opportunities to teach our children arise from the most trivial of things. It's very important that we are around when those opportunities arise.

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