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2007-01-09 11:50 AM

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Subject: Rest Days??? Define "rest" please.....
I am training for an olympic distance and read that "at least" 1 - 2 days rest/no training per week to let my body "recuperate" is necessary. Does this mean nothing whatsoever? Is it OK if on my 2 rest days that I do something low impact like yoga?


2007-01-09 11:59 AM
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I almost always do yoga on my "rest" days. If you're feeling particularly tired/beat, especially after a hard effort (brick or two a day), a complete rest day is also good for the mind and body.

 

edited to add: as you go longer (i.e. HIM), or depending on your current fitness level, complete rest is more important as this is when your body recuperates and actually gets stronger. 



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2007-01-09 12:18 PM
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My "rest" day (typically on Friday) does not have a formal S/B/R workout. But I do use it to do all the "work" that needs done around the house so I have time to workout.

After a Saturday or Sunday long run or bike, I usually "recover" by mowing the grass, changing the oil in the trucks, house maintenance, etc.
2007-01-09 12:29 PM
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A rest day for me is a rest day from any strenuous work. I will do some stretching/massage ball therapy and what ever is needed around the house.
2007-01-09 1:00 PM
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Rest = rest, IOW to NOT do anything at all in terms of training. "Active recovery or Unload" in the other hand means to have an 'easy' training day which won't produce intense fatigue on your body and will promote the recovery process for your body. (That in combination with a good nutrition plan)

Using that as a reference you can have a rest day after a 14 day period of training for instance, BUT in the same period you can include an ‘active recovery’ day every 7th day (6 days of training 1 active recovery day). Better yet, you can have an ‘active recovery or unload week’ every 2 or 3 periods of intense training (i.e. 2x14 day of training) and of course rest weeks after a racing season or a hard race.

The dilemma is to include rest or active recovery days on your training plan and the answer is: it depends    It depends on your ability level (beginner, experience, etc) years training, fitness level, time available for training, age, ability to recover, nutrition, work, family, etc. Plus for some athletes it is always nice to have a complete day off training a week, to focus on other personal stuff or just have a mental break…

2007-01-09 1:05 PM
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Jorge pretty much got it all.  He's good like that.


2007-01-09 1:09 PM
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Marvarnett - 2007-01-09 2:05 PM Jorge pretty much got it all. He's good like that.

I learned to take him seriously in these matters at last year's Florida 70.3 when he passed me like I was backing up during the bike leg.

2007-01-09 1:17 PM
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Yoga is fine on a rest day, provided it's not the heart-pumping, hot/sweaty vinyasa style that is so draining yet magically restorative at the same time...  for me, that's not rest.

Rest is taking a break from all vigorous training, i.e.

taking a long walk or doing a house project instead of getting out for a training ride or run,

swimming a local pond or pool just for the sheer joy of it, not for a continuous distance,

doing something satisfying just for you and/or your partner/SO/family 

2007-01-09 1:29 PM
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marmadaddy - 2007-01-09 1:09 PM

Marvarnett - 2007-01-09 2:05 PM Jorge pretty much got it all. He's good like that.

I learned to take him seriously in these matters at last year's Florida 70.3 when he passed me like I was backing up during the bike leg.

LOL, that's because I took some air off your tires   BTW, I'll see you at Mooseman!
2007-01-09 2:33 PM
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MarmaDaddy...what on EARTH is that avatar??????????????? Is that some sort of alien squid sucking on your head? Shiver me timbers!!
2007-01-09 3:09 PM
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BbMoozer - 2007-01-09 3:33 PM

MarmaDaddy...what on EARTH is that avatar??????????????? Is that some sort of alien squid sucking on your head? Shiver me timbers!!


I gotta get my guess in. Is it a dead plant?


2007-01-09 3:14 PM
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It might be out of date but this is from an interview with Mark Allen, in the Feb/1998 issue of Outside magazine:

How many days off should you take each week?

"Think about it this way," says Allen. "How many days a week do you not eat? Do you not sleep? If you vary your activities and train wisely, you could work out every single day of the year."

But the key phrase here is "train wisely." After 15 years of serious competition, Allen is on such intimate terms with his body and its limits that he really could work out daily. But the rest of us, especially those just starting out, should take a day or two off every week.


I doubt that many of us are as capable as Allen at judging our own condition. Getting a bit more rest and recovery than what is absolutely necessary wont hurt you, but not getting enough might. If you have to ask how much is ok, then it's better to play it safe.

2007-01-09 3:20 PM
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We don't get stronger when we train. We actually get weaker when we train.

We get stronger when we recover from training.  Recovery can be active, like an easy spin on the bike or a walk or an easy swim, but for someone just starting out it's best to take a day or two off each week.

Taking a day off after 6 days in a row of exercising is not being lazy. It's being smart.  Getting injured or burned out from overtraining is not.

BbMoozer - 2007-01-09 3:33 PM MarmaDaddy...what on EARTH is that avatar??????????????? Is that some sort of alien squid sucking on your head? Shiver me timbers!!

It's an alien squid on John Hurt's face.

2007-01-09 3:57 PM
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my 2 cents,
never train with weights 2 days in a row.
and i dont care what split system you try.
2007-01-10 9:30 AM
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OK so my "rest" day was walking for 20 minutes at a slow pace then an hour of yoga. I feel rested today...and ready for my swim/bike brick tonight... thanks for the feedback everyone!
2007-01-10 9:36 AM
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descasena - 2007-01-10 9:30 AM OK so my "rest" day was walking for 20 minutes at a slow pace then an hour of yoga. I feel rested today...and ready for my swim/bike brick tonight... thanks for the feedback everyone!
it is good to know you had a nice "ACTIVE RECOVERY" day

Enjoy the brick!



2007-01-10 9:39 AM
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descasena - 2007-01-09 11:50 AM

I am training for an olympic distance and read that "at least" 1 - 2 days rest/no training per week to let my body "recuperate" is necessary. Does this mean nothing whatsoever? Is it OK if on my 2 rest days that I do something low impact like yoga?


There are usually two camps when it comes to what "rest" days means. One camp says....no physical activity...just take is easy and the other camp says if you want do something make sure it is low impact. I would say yoga would be an excellent choice if you wanted to do a low impact activity for your recovery days.

Edited by joerigg 2007-01-10 9:40 AM
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