General Discussion Triathlon Talk » bike trainer vs. road time Rss Feed  
Moderators: k9car363, alicefoeller Reply
2007-02-15 6:59 AM

Extreme Veteran
412
100100100100
Subject: bike trainer vs. road time
Is there a formula for how to compare trainer time to riding on the road? In other words, if I spend an hour on the trainer is it like 1 1/2 hrs on the road?


2007-02-15 7:19 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Champion
6786
50001000500100100252525
Two seat rocket plane
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
I have heard the ratio 1:20/1:00 bandied about. Personally, I just log trainer time/miles as bike miles straight up. I figure that anything "extra" I am doing is just better training for me in the long run.
2007-02-15 7:21 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Champion
4902
20002000500100100100100
Ottawa, Ontario
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
I don't worry about ratios or whatnot.  An hour on the trainer is an hour of training!
2007-02-15 7:25 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Pro
3705
20001000500100100
Vestavia Hills
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time

Last month's Triathlete Magazine or Inside Tri had an article on winter training which opined that an hour on the trainer was worth 1:30 on the road since no coasting down hill, stop lights or other rest intervals involved in the workout.

Not sure that I agree with that and instead believe an hour in the saddle is indeed just that - an hour in the saddle.

That said, it is better than an hour on the couch eating potato chips.

2007-02-15 8:50 AM
in reply to: #691368

User image

Resident Curmudgeon
25290
50005000500050005000100100252525
The Road Back
Gold member
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
brian - 2007-02-15 7:25 AM

Last month's Triathlete Magazine or Inside Tri had an article on winter training which opined that an hour on the trainer was worth 1:30 on the road since no coasting down hill, stop lights or other rest intervals involved in the workout.

Not sure that I agree with that and instead believe an hour in the saddle is indeed just that - an hour in the saddle.

That said, it is better than an hour on the couch eating potato chips.

My routes have no down hill, no stop lights and no other rest intervals; for the most part I maintain a steady heart rate throughout the workout. Don't know how I could justify saying 60 minutes on the trainer is worth 90 minutes on the road.

Maybe it just SEEMS that way. Cool

2007-02-15 9:13 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Champion
9407
500020002000100100100100
Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
You will be able to find various estimates of road time vs trainer time, but like the others here, I don't worry about what my trainer ride is comparable to on the road. Instead, each workout has a goal and I'll do that for whatever length of time the workout requires. In addition, I'll do drills that I don't do on the road (isolated leg drills for example). My trainer rides are rarely over 45' but they are typically fairly intense - once I can get outside for long rides I'll get in my long z2 but for now the trainer is pretty much it

Shane


2007-02-15 9:36 AM
in reply to: #691368

User image

Extreme Veteran
492
100100100100252525
Home port
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
brian - 2007-02-15 7:25 AM

Last month's Triathlete Magazine or Inside Tri had an article on winter training which opined that an hour on the trainer was worth 1:30 on the road since no coasting down hill, stop lights or other rest intervals involved in the workout.

Not sure that I agree with that and instead believe an hour in the saddle is indeed just that - an hour in the saddle.

That said, it is better than an hour on the couch eating potato chips.

I've heard from this same thread maybe a week ago, anything from 1:1.2 to 1:1.5.  Obviously there is no coasting on the trainer, so you are probably working harder.  It depends on what type of trainer you use also. Most fluid trainers simulate the road better because they have progressive resistance(mine anyway).  As far as logging training time 1 hr on the trainer is still 1 hr.  Obviously, all this time spent on the trainer will better prepare you once you get out on the road. 

/QUOTE]

2007-02-15 9:49 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Master
3019
20001000
West Jordan, UT
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time

If you could get the same workout in less time using a trainer, then you wouldn't see the pros out practicing for 4+ hours a day on their bikes.  They would just hit a trainer for 2 hours.   I think if you are talking pure calorie expenditure, you might be a few percent higher on the trainer. but for actual training I would say it is worth less that riding on the road.  

As for me, I just log the trainer or spin bike as actual time and use my average road pace to calc the distance.    

2007-02-15 9:52 AM
in reply to: #691341

Extreme Veteran
412
100100100100
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time

thanks everyone. I agree with most of you and do just log it as 1 hour if I do one hour. I am very new to biking and was just wondering so I could make myself feel really good in my head if it was like doing more.  I notice a big difference with no coasting/downhills etc.  It's so consistent. 

 

2007-02-15 10:16 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Veteran
235
10010025
Independence, KY
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time

Well this would depend totally no the tension set on your trainer.  If your trainer were set a the lowest tension I'm going to guess that you would be getting less of a workout than on the road.  If it is at the highest tension I would guess you would be working at least as hard as you would on the road. 

I just log straight trainer time. 

2007-02-15 10:27 AM
in reply to: #691564

User image

Champion
6993
50001000500100100100100252525
Chicago, Illinois
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
I do 1 to 1. I simulate courses I race on and I would hate to think that if it takes me 1:30 to do it on the trainer that it will take me 2:15 on the race course. Then again knowing me it probably will .

problem with the trainer is there are so many factors like did you tighen it all the way and such things so its easy to under work during the work out time on a trainer.

I think its better to under log than over log. better for you to do more than you think because frankly its not the log where it counts but how fast you are on race day.




2007-02-15 11:02 AM
in reply to: #691341

User image

Master
1967
10005001001001001002525
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
Let me throw a different idea out - An hour on the trainer is actually "worth" less than an hour on the road.

My three biggest limiters on the road are (in order):

1. Hills.
2. Wind.
3. Road surface.

While I can similate hills on the trainer, I haven't figured out a way to simulate random wind and rough roads. Without those elements thrown in, I'm not putting in as much work on the trainer as I would on the road.
2007-02-15 11:09 AM
in reply to: #691341

Extreme Veteran
412
100100100100
Subject: RE: bike trainer vs. road time
That is true. There are certainly many more elements that challenge you on the road. However, as a very new biker, I am truly just learning to use my muscles in a different way than running. I feel that constant pedalling on the bike on my trainer is givign me a strong workout that is comparable to the road.
New Thread
General Discussion Triathlon Talk » bike trainer vs. road time Rss Feed