Ironman Training: LR - Finish Times

What conclusions are you looking to draw from the given data? I am just curious to understand the reasoning behind it…

Bricking your Long Run is completely counterproductive. There is just no reason for it, no training value to be gained, and it just doesn't make any sense. If you brick anything long it should be your Long Bike. It's much easier to follow up a Long Bike with a true Brick run of an hour or so or just an easy 30 min Transition Run.

My athletes do a Long Bike on Saturday and Long Run on Sunday every other week to get used to running on tired legs. On the other weeks they do a Long Run on Thursdays to get a good quality run in on relatively fresh legs. Those weeks have a run of varying length following the Long Bike.

During an IM it isn't as much about the bike-to-run transition as it is about getting good quality workouts in for each leg. After the bike leg it is actually better if you run slower out of T2 until you get your legs under you and then settle into a sustainable pace.

WaterDog66 - 2007-05-03 1:27 PM I am begining to get the idea that posting this question in this forum was probably a mistake. Was not looking for advise on my training plan nor was I looking for someone to come along and tell me that my training plan is all wrong.

I don't understand what you were asking......and if your coach has you bricking a Long Run then I might question his/her methods.

Not trying to criticize/advise (I charge for that ).  As I mentioned on my OP I am just trying to understand what are you looking for? Many things work different for athletes; I strong runner would bike more, I stronger rider would run more, ALL will have to swim more, and the type and quality INDIVIDUAL sessions would be different. An experienced athlete will be able to absorb greater workloads hence will be training more, a top AG would do more sessions at higher intensities, etc.

Training by mileage is a bad idea because for instance a fast runner will cover more distance in 60min than a slower runner. If you force the slower to run the same distance he/she will require more recovery from ONE session. Also as RM said the benefits obtained from a long bricks short bike/long run are outweighed by the negatives…

My reply wasn't meant to be "snarky" as  you put it. You asked a question and as a USAT Certified Coach who has coached 10 Ironman finishers I feel more than qualified to answer it.

I re-read your original post several times to try and figure out what you were asking and the only thing I could come up with is that you are wanting to find out if doing a bike ride of some sort before your Long Run would help your preparation.

If I misinterpreted your question I apologize, but for the life of me I can't figure out why you would want to ride before your Long Run.

I think you are getting way to worked up about this. You are correct we don't know you or your situation. We only know what YOU posted in your OP, and that is what we are basing our opinions on.

I still don't understand what exactly you are asking and what benefits you are trying to realize from your OP.