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2007-05-12 7:06 AM

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Subject: Changing cassettes?
So, I have my new tri bike, which I love. Over the winter, I bought an extra wheel which I had set up with a 9 speed cassette to use with my road bike on the trainer. I am thinking about getting another 10 speed cassette so I can use the same wheel on the trainer with my tri bike. The wheels are the same size.

I'm pretty ignorant about chaning cassettes, or even what gearing I should be looking for. So, here are a few of the questions I have:

1. How practical is it to change cassettes for different bikes like this? I imagine I will probably mostly be riding the tri bike for the next several months, I need some more T.I.T.S. on this bike to adjust to riding in a new position, new geometry, etc., so I probably wouldn't really be switching it back and forth, at least not in the near future.

2. The new tri bike has a dura-ace rear derailleur. Can I use a lower level (i.e. cheaper) cassette on a "trainer wheel"?

3. Can someone educate me about gearing? Or provide some links that would help me decide what I should be looking for? Or should I just try to get a cassette with the same (stock) gearing that the bike came with?

Thanks!!!


2007-05-12 8:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing cassettes?

Park Tool has an extensive library of instructions on bike maintenance online. 

Here is a link to the page on cassette removal.

http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=48

Read the section on Cassette Cog Lockring Removal and Installation.  You need a chain whip and a lockring tool to do the job.

You might want to get a book like Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance for general bike maintenance tips.

Ultegra cassettes with the same number of cogs are compatible with DuraAce. 

The choice of gearing is a function of your strength and the grade where you train and race.  The standard ranges for the rear cassette are typically, 12-25, 11-23, 12-27, etc.   The numbers are the number of teeth in the smallest and largest cog.  The 12-25 would be a common, middle of the road choice for a cassette.  The 11-23 is racy and is for flat terrain.  12-27 would be more for climbing.  Here is a link to the Shimano Product page for cassettes.

http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/component.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441770452&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302050611&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181674&bmUID=1178975714370

The front chain rings are typically 53 and 39.  With a 12-25 cassette, the largest gear ratio is the 53/12.  So for one turn of the crank, the rear wheel turns about 4.4 turns.  The lowest would be 39/25 which means the wheel turns about 1.5 turns per turn of the crank.  I can get really technical and mathematical at this point but probably you aren't interested in a physics lesson.  The best thing to do is to experiment a bit.  Get friendly with a bike mechanic or friend with some spare cassettes and try them out on a few of your standard rides.  The extremes of the gear rations are needed for going up and down hills.

TW 

 

TW

  



Edited by tech_geezer 2007-05-12 8:27 AM
2007-05-12 1:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Changing cassettes?
I don't think you can switch from 9 speed to 10 speed. I also bought a new wheel and was going to buy a cheap cassette for the old so I could use it on the trainer, but the LBS told me I should keep the same speeds.

As for changing the cassette, I bet if you bought the chain whip from your LBS, they'll demonstrate how to use it. It really is quite easy once you see how it's done. Takes 5-10 minutes.
2007-05-12 2:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Changing cassettes?
I'm not trying to switch from 9 to 10 speed on the same bike... My road bike is 9 speed, but the new tri bike is 10 speed. I have a "trainer wheel" that I use for the road bike when I ride it on the trainer. I was thinking if I could switch out the 9 speed cassette for a 10 speed cassette, I can use the trainer wheel to ride the tri bike on the trainer as well.... I know I can't use the 9 speed cassette that's currently on that wheel on the new tri bike (the 10 speed), and would like to avoid the wear & tear on the new bike's rear tire by riding it on the trainer!!

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