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2007-07-09 9:56 PM

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Subject: Average Heart Rate Bike vs. Run
I have been working with my HRM the last week or so. I completed my LT test to get my max heart rate on both the run and bike.

Max HR on run 191. Max HR on bike 188.

So you would think the average heart rate on the bike would be lower than on the run. Not in my case. Seems like any hill (and there are lots in my riding area) my HR spikes up to around 165+. Is this normal? My AHR on any bike ride will be around 160.

I can keep my HR on the run pretty constant. I ran a 5K the other day around 25 minutes and my AHR was around 142.

Any suggestions.





2007-07-09 10:43 PM
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James,

Overall my max numbers are similar to yours, and a few years ago when I was a less experienced rider I had the same experience. Couple thoughts

1. You have a more developed/efficient cardio engine from a running standpoint, in which you have more advance neuromuscular connections in recruiting the right muscles. Do you have a running background versus cycling?

2. You have not learned to control your breathing while climbing. Next time you are on a hill, try changing your breathing pattern to 3 short quick inhales, then 1 longer exhale (all through your mouth), repeat. This will make sure more air is getting down into your lungs versus just changing breaths of air.
2007-07-10 6:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Average Heart Rate Bike vs. Run
  1. A LT test should determine your lactate threshold heart rate, not your Max HR. What testing protocol did you use? From what I understand, any test for Max HR is going to have a wide margin of error.
  2. An AHR of 142 in a 5K does not jive with a "Max HR on run 191," unless you were jogging the 5K at a much-slower-than-race pace.
  3. Of course hills are going to spike your HR. If your bike ride is a harder effort than your run effort, then it would not be strange for your AHR to be higher on the bike.
2007-07-10 8:03 AM
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2007-07-10 8:08 AM
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the bear - 2007-07-10 6:12 AM
  1. A LT test should determine your lactate threshold heart rate, not your Max HR. What testing protocol did you use? From what I understand, any test for Max HR is going to have a wide margin of error.
  2. An AHR of 142 in a 5K does not jive with a "Max HR on run 191," unless you were jogging the 5K at a much-slower-than-race pace.
  3. Of course hills are going to spike your HR. If your bike ride is a harder effort than your run effort, then it would not be strange for your AHR to be higher on the bike.

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OP - just in case what you called Max Hr is indeed LT (which seems unlikley) then you either didn't push hard enough on the run test or you are out of shape for cycling...

2007-07-10 8:55 AM
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I followed the test procedures for for Maximum Heart Rate on this site (under Articles Heart Rate Section. Where and how do you perform a LT test?

2. The 5K was not a race, but simply a treadmill run at a very comfortable pace. I made a concious effort to stay in Zone 2.

3. I still don't understand how to keep a constant HR on the bike.....or are spikes normal throught a ride. What is a "good average HR" on the bike?

2007-07-11 1:35 PM
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My AHR on my bike is around 160 and on my run around 170. I think its pretty normal to have a higher MHR and AHR during running than cycling... at least from everythign I have read. Just as an FYI, I have been cycling much longer than running.
2007-07-11 1:43 PM
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PennState - 2007-07-10 8:03 AM
the bear - 2007-07-10 7:12 AM
  1. A LT test should determine your lactate threshold heart rate, not your Max HR. What testing protocol did you use? From what I understand, any test for Max HR is going to have a wide margin of error.
  2. An AHR of 142 in a 5K does not jive with a "Max HR on run 191," unless you were jogging the 5K at a much-slower-than-race pace.
  3. Of course hills are going to spike your HR. If your bike ride is a harder effort than your run effort, then it would not be strange for your AHR to be higher on the bike.

Agree entirely. Max HR is not the same as LT. Max HR is almost as useless as using your eye color to determine zones lol

LT HR of 142 for a 5K race with a max of 191 does not jive at all. Not for a max effort, which is what an LT test requires.

I would suggest using the search engine to look up LT field test. It will help a lot.

Wait a second...What is wrong with the eye color method for determining zones.  I've been following that protocol all season and it's worked fine on me!

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