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2007-08-19 1:19 PM

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Subject: Breathing Techniques - Running
I was running last night and I started wondering if my breathing methods are normal. I typically breath in for three steps, then out for three steps when I'm out for a nice easy run.

When I'm looking for a faster pace, I breath in for two steps and breath out for two steps. Is this normal? How do you breath?


2007-08-19 6:02 PM
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I've been wondering the same thing. In my Oly yesterday, I was alternating in 2 out 3 - in 2 out 2: 2 and 2 up hills. Training in the low HR zones it is more: 3 and 3.

I'm curious what other HR trainers have experienced. It would seem that more steps per breath would be a natural outcome of HR training or of overall fitness?
2007-08-19 6:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Breathing Techniques - Running

bradparsons01 - 2007-08-19 1:19 PM I was running last night and I started wondering if my breathing methods are normal. I typically breath in for three steps, then out for three steps when I'm out for a nice easy run. When I'm looking for a faster pace, I breath in for two steps and breath out for two steps. Is this normal? How do you breath?

Whatever feels natural.  I've never counted breathing before, but I was informed years ago from my track/X-country coach that I should breathe more from the diaphragm then in the upper body/chest, meaning as you breathe in, the tummy area should push out and as you breathe out, the tummy area pulls inwards.  This shouldn't be an exaggerated effort, either.

2007-08-20 10:43 AM
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One of my favorite topics, as it literally saved my running career.  I used to suffer from chronic lower leg pain (particularly on the right) as a result of being a tall runner with bad form and bad running mechanics.  Plus we just ran FAST all the time in high school cross country and track.  No recovery... no LSD... just FAST FASTER and FASTER STILL (unfortunately I was never the fastest).

I read an article in runners world once - in fact it may have just been a Q&A with some expert - where the author suggested learning to breath 3 in 2 out, as the impact when you begin to exhale causes the most stress on the body.  I don't know the science there, but I made the switch from 2/2 to 3/2 and my leg problems got much better.

I now run all runs except races at 3/2... races I still do 2/2... but I make it a point to switch legs at each mile marker.

You're mileage may vary... but if you are having problems on one side but not the other, it's somthing to consider.

2007-08-20 10:48 AM
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There is no right or wrong way.  There's whatever works for you.

Your body will find a natural rhythm.  I would go with that.

For the record, I do 3/3, or 2 in/1 out/ 1 pause. 

2007-08-20 10:58 AM
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I think if you are breathing in and then breathing out you are normal.



2007-08-20 12:27 PM
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ScottoNM - 2007-08-20 10:58 AM

 

I think if you are breathing in and then breathing out you are normal.



Thank God! Now if I can just convince my wife ...
2007-08-20 12:34 PM
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3 and 3 for LSD, 3 and 2 for more moderate runs, and 2 and 2 for race pace efforts.

Not sure if I read this or made it up, I believe this is why the army et al have chants during their marching/running drills, to force the men to breath at the right times. Controlling my breathing was the biggest thing I did to help my running when I first started. Before I paid attention to this I would get too winded.

For the record, when I breathe out, I blow the air out like I'm blowing out candles, that seems to help especially when I get a side stitch. The harder I blow the air out, the faster the side stitch disappears....

2007-08-20 1:19 PM
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SuzanneS - 2007-08-20 1:34 PM

Not sure if I read this or made it up, I believe this is why the army et al have chants during their marching/running drills, to force the men to breath at the right times.

They are called cadences, and yes, part of the purpose is to help control breathing patterns.  It also forces you to breathe deeper. 

2007-08-20 1:22 PM
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I read once that to get rid of "stitches" you breathe in for 3 steps, out for 2.  For whatever reason it has to be an odd number. Anyway...it works. Whenever I feel the stitches coming on, I immediately start this rhythm, and they go away!
2007-08-20 1:37 PM
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Crap, I have just been breathing this whole time, I did not realize I was suppose to count.  One more thing I would have to remember while running so I just take a deep breath and then exhale.  Maybe I will try this tonight.  If I fall over I was trying to do too many things at once.


2007-08-20 1:40 PM
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kproudfoot - 2007-08-20 2:37 PM Crap, I have just been breathing this whole time, I did not realize I was suppose to count. One more thing I would have to remember while running so I just take a deep breath and then exhale. Maybe I will try this tonight. If I fall over I was trying to do too many things at once.

*snerk* 

2007-08-20 1:41 PM
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kproudfoot - 2007-08-20 11:37 AM Crap, I have just been breathing this whole time, I did not realize I was suppose to count.  One more thing I would have to remember while running so I just take a deep breath and then exhale.  Maybe I will try this tonight.  If I fall over I was trying to do too many things at once.

Still easier than all the stuff you have to think about while swimming!!! That's the total rubber-baby-buggy-bumper sport for me!!

2007-08-20 1:47 PM
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kproudfoot - 2007-08-20 12:37 PM Crap, I have just been breathing this whole time, I did not realize I was suppose to count.  One more thing I would have to remember while running so I just take a deep breath and then exhale.  Maybe I will try this tonight.  If I fall over I was trying to do too many things at once.

Try taking a TI (total inhaling) clinic...

 

2007-08-20 2:00 PM
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kproudfoot - 2007-08-20 11:37 AM

Crap, I have just been breathing this whole time, I did not realize I was suppose to count.  One more thing I would have to remember while running so I just take a deep breath and then exhale.  Maybe I will try this tonight.  If I fall over I was trying to do too many things at once.


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2007-08-20 2:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Breathing Techniques - Running
This is funny - as with most topics on this board, people have the full range of answers, including those exactly opposite from one another.

I do 3/2 count breathing, but it's 3 out, 2 in. If I took three in and only two out, I would be in danger of hyperventilating b/c I find it harder work to breathe out the extra air. Pushing it all out in three counts slows down my breathing, and then my body naturally inhales as much as it needs to keep going with the two coming in.

When I run faster, my breathing naturally goes to a 2/2 pattern. But for all other runs, my 3/2 works very efficiently. I don't usually get out of breath, and I never get side stitches. And no, I don't get caught up in counting, but maybe that's b/c I started this technique when I first started running 4 1/2 years ago and it became a habit early on.



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