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2007-09-10 8:24 AM

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Subject: Transition setup etiquette
I put this in my race report, but wanted to see what other thought.

I am new to tri's this year and just finished my last race of the season on Sat., but ended up with 4 of them in my first year and loved almost every minute.

so I get to the race early enought and set up on a rack that isn't in a prime spot by anymeans, but as a result, I took the end spot on the rack. After stretching etc., I left the transition area about 5 minutes before they closed it. I have very little in my transition area and kept thing neatly under my bike.

Well, I finish my swim and get into the transition area and get to the rack and notice that I am in the wrong rack. Wait, no, this is second from the back and ... wait a second. It was then that I noticed someone had pushed my bike in and put their bike and equipment where mine was????? My helmet was knocked off my bike and both it and my glasses were not only on the ground, but on the ground on the other side of the rack. My running shoes were mixed in with their stuff.

I realize some people have issues and for reasons beyond their control, show up late to events, but PLEASE don't impact others with your issues. This really impacted my T1 time and took a few minutes to settle down and move on.

I was ready to sit there and give em' h@#l when they got back from the run, but decided there would be no benefit in doing that.

Any thoughts? Should I have done anything different?


2007-09-10 8:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Transition setup etiquette
There seems to be a post like this every so often... maybe it's the same person doing it at multiple races :-) Other than deflating their tires, I think you did the right thing by focusing on what you could control and making the best.

Never let someone else's action ruin your race!
2007-09-10 8:31 AM
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ball6135 - 2007-09-10 8:24 AM Any thoughts? Should I have done anything different?

Yes, you should have let the air out of that clod's tires.

Seriously, there are jerks in every area of life, including triathlons. We tolerate them when we can and hope the karma catches up with them.

2007-09-10 8:51 AM
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ball6135 - 2007-09-10 9:24 AM  so I get to the race early enought and set up on a rack that isn't in a prime spot by anymeans, but as a result, I took the end spot on the rack. 

As long as you were racked in the correct spot to begin with.  If you weren't supposed to rack in an assigned spot (ie, you didn't inadvertently rack in this egit's spot) there is nothing more you can do.  You did right to take the high road.  The nice this is that you continued your race, and still 'loved every minute!'  Congrats!

2007-09-10 8:58 AM
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Sorry to hear that happened, that sucks...

next time, tie their running shoe laces in knots and then together. the extra minute that will take will be saved tenfold in satisfaction while you are on the bike. this is a good practice to get in anyways, at all races, just so you have practiced this for that one time someone in transition was a meanie - you know, nothing new on race day. it's even more fun to tie several different peoples shoes together. if you are creative, you should be able to tie about 10 shoes together using 1 knot, and it won't take much more time than just tying 2 shoes together.

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2007-09-10 8:58 AM
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I have had similar experiences and what I do now is hang out near the transition area as it closes and watch my bike. I had one person attempt to move my stuff while watching and when I told him to knock it off he moved to another rack.


2007-09-10 9:28 AM
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I'm more of the mess with the guys crap type of guy but you are right, serves no purpose.

I've been in a sitation where I'm trying to set up 40 minutes prior to a race.  Sometimes  there are NO spots at all.  I've had to make a bit of room for myself.  In that case I pick someone who has everything including a lawn chair in there. 

For me I really don't need much space, just enough for the bike.  I keep my shoes on my towel right underneath.  I pretty much yard sale my stuff until I finish and can clean up.

2007-09-10 9:48 AM
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You did what was right and took the high road.  At the HIM I did this weekend, there were only 6 bikes per race and the person on the other end literally had a beach towel spread out fully with their stuff on it and the bike NEXT to that.

A guy showed up about 30 min before transition closed and didn't have room.  So I called over a USAT official and had her watch as we moved the bike over so that it was above the towel.  That provided enough room for his bike and didn't mess up their "picnic". 

2007-09-10 10:40 AM
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Marvarnett - 2007-09-10 10:48 AM

So I called over a USAT official and had her watch as we moved the bike over so that it was above the towel.  That provided enough room for his bike and didn't mess up their "picnic". 

Spot on, Dan!  Is it any wonder we luv you so much here? 

2007-09-10 10:41 AM
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It's things like that happening that tempt me to bring a bike lock with me and lock their bike to the rack... or better yet, just get a little pad lock and slap it on one of the wheels.

bts

2007-09-10 10:47 AM
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Brett - 2007-09-10 10:41 AM

It's things like that happening that tempt me to bring a bike lock with me and lock their bike to the rack... or better yet, just get a little pad lock and slap it on one of the wheels.

bts



Trust me, thoughts like this crossed my mind and it was really difficult to move past it... I would say I was 4-5 miles into the ride before I was able to let it go. I was still planning on sitting around and waiting for them to show up... luckily, I suck at the run, so just wanted to move on by the time I was done.


2007-09-10 11:45 AM
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They were apparently much slower than you were out of the water, so having that primeo spot helped them greatly!

You handled it very well.  I might have after the race looked up someone that should have been watching the transition area and asked them to make sure the person was penalized for messing with my stuff.  The problem is at that point, it is pretty hard to know if they did it or someone banged into your bike while they came flying through the transition area.

That is one reason I normally don't leave the area until just prior to the race starting.  I have yet to have someone do that to me, but then I also don't try to get end spots.  I figure as long as I am on the rack, that is all that matters to me.

2007-09-10 12:01 PM
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I always hang around the transition area till the last second. I've stopped morons from messing with my stuff and other victims. The volunteers at races do a great job, but watching out for the yardsaler should be added to their duties.

2007-09-10 3:07 PM
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Brett - 2007-09-10 11:41 AM

It's things like that happening that tempt me to bring a bike lock with me and lock their bike to the rack... or better yet, just get a little pad lock and slap it on one of the wheels.

bts



Plastic Zip ties....

Good Sportsmanship IS alive and well!

Edited by dougd 2007-09-10 3:08 PM
2007-09-10 3:19 PM
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What is yard sale-ing?  One person mentioned it like it was a good thing, but then it seemed negative in another post.  Help please.
2007-09-10 3:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Transition setup etiquette

yardsaleing - verb [yahrd] [sey-ling]
- stowing, using, and replacing your tri gear in a transition area with no discernable organizational principal.
- having your tri gear in the transition area strewn about intentionally or unitentionally by other racers



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2007-09-10 4:29 PM
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bikingbruise - 2007-09-10 9:28 AM

I'm more of the mess with the guys crap type of guy but you are right, serves no purpose.

I've been in a sitation where I'm trying to set up 40 minutes prior to a race.  Sometimes  there are NO spots at all.  I've had to make a bit of room for myself.  In that case I pick someone who has everything including a lawn chair in there. 

For me I really don't need much space, just enough for the bike.  I keep my shoes on my towel right underneath.  I pretty much yard sale my stuff until I finish and can clean up.



I just had my tri this Saturday and was guarding my transition area until the heats were being called and I observed a few late arrivals frantically searching for some space to set up. I ALSO observed what you mentioned above, people who practically have their living room set up for their transition area. I almost flagged a guy down to come over to the rack next to me because one guy had as much space taken up with his transition area as two people took up everywhere else.

Also a side rant, my event allowed non-participants in the transition area (pre-race) which I believe makes it too crowded when people are setting up.
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