General Discussion Triathlon Talk » The Thrill of Killer Drills Rss Feed  
Moderators: k9car363, alicefoeller Reply
2004-10-28 1:57 PM

User image

Master
2447
200010010010010025
Marietta, Ga
Subject: The Thrill of Killer Drills

Okay, in trying to put together a training plan for the winter season, I was thinking about all the possible drills to include to keep things interesting.  I was reading Coredump's training log this morning and he mentioned one where he swim's 50's with closed fists.  Sounds like a great drill for developing forearm pull and form.  I read another in the training bible about skipping and how good that was for your running. I don't care how good it is for running, but you'll never see me skipping down the streets of Atlanta.

Tell us about your favorite drills, be they run, bike or swim related and why you do them.



2004-10-28 2:03 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Master
1558
10005002525
Pensacola, Fl
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills

None of them are favorites, but....

For bike:  90+ cadence workouts

For run:  trying cadence workouts as well.  (Jumping rope, helps prevent heel strike running.  Keeps you on your toes).

For swim:  trying to improve form working on stroke counts.  Also, will use paddles for improving stroke strength.

2004-10-28 2:19 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Master
2233
200010010025
Mechanicsburg, PA
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
Big fan of swimming with closed fists. I swam a lot of my training swims that way when I was trying to work on my balance. It makes a huge difference. It really points out how much of your arm aside from your hand can be used for propulsion too.

-Frank
2004-10-28 2:30 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Elite
2915
2000500100100100100
New City, New York
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
Do 12 oz curls count?


sorry just in that kind of mood. here is my other favorite bicep curl:
"21's" - break the normal curl into 3 steps, 7 reps of each:
1) from straight arm to 90 degrees, back down
2) from 90 degrees to chest, back down to 90 degrees
3) from straight arm all the way way up (normal curl), all the back down SLOWLY.

use lighter weights. strraght bar or curl bar. arms only don't sway! if you do lower the weight. great burn in the biceps!
2004-10-28 3:30 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills

I read another in the training bible about skipping and how good that was for your running. I don't care how good it is for running, but you'll never see me skipping down the streets of Atlanta.


Karl, I hear you...My 11 year old has a VERY athletic teacher. She has passed along great habits to her students. One of them is skipping. Since he is still young enough to think everything his teacher says is "gold", he makes me go skip with him! It's so fun you can't help laughing!
This summer I was participating in the Law Enforcement Torch Run with a fellow officer who is a serious runner. He said he skips regularly, usually at a track though.
2004-10-28 3:36 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Expert
1166
10001002525
Colchester, CT
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
Favorite running Speed work drill:

2 mile warm up
8x1200 meters at 5k pace, with 400m jogging recoveries
2 mile cool down.

Total distance almost 11 miles

The trick is not to blast the first couple so you are wiped out for the remainder. Best I ever did was to run all 8 within 4 seconds of each other

Chris


2004-10-28 5:41 PM
in reply to: #76941

User image

Elite
3235
2000100010010025
San Diego
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
cdf26.2 - 2004-10-28 12:36 PM

Favorite running Speed work drill:

2 mile warm up
8x1200 meters at 5k pace, with 400m jogging recoveries
2 mile cool down.

Total distance almost 11 miles

The trick is not to blast the first couple so you are wiped out for the remainder. Best I ever did was to run all 8 within 4 seconds of each other

Chris


The warm up and cool down would be enough for me

My favorite swim drill is the finger drag, where you drag your fingers across the water during your stroke. It is actually kind of hard to keep that form for a while.

Favorite bike drill has to be the one leg drills. I love the look on people's faces as you pass them with one leg on the pedals.
Of course I got passed on one of the hardest hills in San Diego by a guy going at least 5 mph faster than me while he was doing one leg drills...Damn Roadie.

And there is no way I have a favorite run drill.
Tom
2004-10-28 7:52 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Master
1791
1000500100100252525
Raleigh, North Carolina
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
Motivated - 2004-10-28 1:57 PM

Okay, in trying to put together a training plan for the winter season, I was thinking about all the possible drills to include to keep things interesting.  I was reading Coredump's training log this morning and he mentioned one where he swim's 50's with closed fists.  Sounds like a great drill for developing forearm pull and form.  I read another in the training bible about skipping and how good that was for your running. I don't care how good it is for running, but you'll never see me skipping down the streets of Atlanta.

Tell us about your favorite drills, be they run, bike or swim related and why you do them.



Skipping is good for you. It makes you feel about 20 years younger....

Anyway...last night's masters class the instructor had us do the following drill:

Hand over drill. While swimming freestyle, you cannot do your underwater stroke with your left arm until your right arm has been placed on top of your left, then vice versa...you cannot take your right arm stroke through the water until your left hand has been placed on top of your right hand.

This drill seemed to be forcing me to glide more through the water. It also forced me to use kick to propel myself (I'm a lazy kicker - more upper body).
2004-10-28 8:25 PM
in reply to: #77038

User image

Expert
1836
100050010010010025
Lafayette, CO
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills

jkbostic - 2004-10-28 5:52 PM 

 Anyway...last night's masters class the instructor had us do the following drill: Hand over drill. While swimming freestyle, you cannot do your underwater stroke with your left arm until your right arm has been placed on top of your left, then vice versa...you cannot take your right arm stroke through the water until your left hand has been placed on top of your right hand. This drill seemed to be forcing me to glide more through the water. It also forced me to use kick to propel myself (I'm a lazy kicker - more upper body).

Oooo!  I like the sounds of that one!  I'm still working the TI drills, but I'm ready to move forward to the next stage (I think - so does my part-time swim coach). 

Running: 5 mile run, followed by 6-8 hill repeats - sprint up, jog slowly back down (Uphill HR gets 160+, recovery jog until HR = 120-124)

I think I'm going to start doing this one, too: 3x5K, 1 minute recovery between, 1st 5K at slightly less than race pace, 2nd at race pace, 3rd faster than race pace (if possible for me!)

2004-10-28 11:37 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Master
1927
100050010010010010025
Chicago
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
I hate drills. I hate drills. Don't do them. But now I have great ideas for doing some. Will try some.
2004-10-29 11:25 AM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Elite Veteran
970
5001001001001002525
Smyrna, Georgia
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills

Maybe we ought to incorporate some skipping in our next Atlanta group training.  If we're all skipping, then it will make other people feel jealous!  ;-

Oh yeah, I do the fist drills when I swim.  I find it really forces you to stay balanced.



Edited by Whit 2004-10-29 11:25 AM


2004-11-02 12:39 PM
in reply to: #76892

Online or Offline
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills

Cycling/spinning:
sets of plyometric explosive vertical jumps after coming off the spinner, interspersed in a spin class
OR
throwing in wallsits
*YOWCH*

Swimming:
Hypoxic set - underwater 25's. Sometimes we do a 100 cooldown in masters with the 1st and 4th 25 underwater.  I thought this was an idiotic drill, and actually did research on my own about it. Apparently it's more of a drill on how your body operates with an excess of CO2, versus a lack of O. It really has no point in training, but for me it is certainly the "thrill of a killer drill". I just do it to see if I can. I am always like 2' shy of touching the wall on that 4th hypoxic 25 y. Dang!

2004-11-02 1:43 PM
in reply to: #76892

User image

Master
2447
200010010010010025
Marietta, Ga
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
During my masters swim class today, I did "fist drills", which were mentioned in another thread.  Its where you swim with closed fists and really have to rely on the whip of your arm for propulsion.  It also really helps with the timing of the swim stroke.  I did a few 50's with the fists closed.  Then, I swam a few 100's and felt like a speed boat in the water.
2004-11-02 4:07 PM
in reply to: #76892

Member
16

Vancouver,B.C.
Subject: RE: The Thrill of Killer Drills
swimming:
dominant side breathing
50m catchup/50m fingertip drag
50m fist/50m racing dogpaddle(underwater stroke recovery)
25left arm/25 rightarm only/50 m Dingle( shake your hand/arm like you're ringing bells on the recovery)
repeat again but nondominant side breathing (the one arm drills are tough but great for rotation)

also hypoxyic (sp) breathing every 3stroke,5 stroke 7, 9,11,3, 5, 7,9,11. ( trick is to control your exhale... the11's are tough!!!)

biking:
oneleg drills
cadence builds 3min@ 80 ,3min@ 85, 3min@ 90 etc
New Thread
General Discussion Triathlon Talk » The Thrill of Killer Drills Rss Feed