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 2009-07-31 2:31 PM in reply to: #2320083 |
 Medford, MA |  Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread |
| 2009-07-31 2:36 PM in reply to: #2320083 |
Master  1209  New York, NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Not really anxious at all, but definitely getting more and more excited by the day! This will be my first HIM. When I registered I was excited, but terrified for what lay ahead and definitely questioned if I could actually do this. Well, the terror is long gone and there's no question in my mind that I'm more than ready for a strong race  acumenjay - 2009-07-31 3:00 PM Anyone getting a little anxious? |
| 2009-07-31 4:33 PM in reply to: #2320158 |
Regular 1025 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Don't wish that....ENJOY IT!!!!! We're fired up! Athlete Guide is going online very soon, and confirmations will be emailed out Monday Tech tees are being printed, all of the supplies are being delivered. Big Staff meeting on Sunday |
| 2009-08-01 5:14 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Master 1410 White Plains NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I have a question about the run. How much of it is shaded? |
| 2009-08-01 5:20 PM in reply to: #2321603 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Keith can correct me, but seemed about half last weekend |
| 2009-08-01 9:21 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Member 41 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I have a question about the swim. I am sure we will get our instructions this week but I am trying to start to get my mind mentally around the whole experience.... Is it a wave start or mass start??? Thanks, Barb |
| 2009-08-01 9:22 PM in reply to: #2321859 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread wave start |
| 2009-08-02 6:05 AM in reply to: #2321603 |
| Regular 1025 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I run the course 3 times a week (I live right off it)....it's shaded for a good portion of it. 70%???? |
| 2009-08-04 12:02 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Master 1410 White Plains NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread |
| 2009-08-04 12:48 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I'm wave 11. What is the logic behind the wave assignments? Age groupings? Why would male 30-34 be so far back? |
| 2009-08-04 1:16 PM in reply to: #2327115 |
Master 1410 White Plains NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread vrljc - 2009-08-04 1:02 PM Thanks Keith for sending out the race info via email! How long between swim waves? nevermind! i found the wave chart |
| 2009-08-04 8:45 PM in reply to: #2327281 |
Expert 657 Portland | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread acumenjay - 2009-08-04 1:48 PM I'm wave 11. What is the logic behind the wave assignments? Age groupings? Why would male 30-34 be so far back? That's a good question. Having done a mass start at IMLP last year, I can see some benefit to safety with the wave starts, but having so many waves seems to be overly cautious. IMHO. It also seems to be a little bit of a disadvantage that some waves are starting 45minutes-1hour later, especially if the weather turns out to be warm. |
| 2009-08-04 8:54 PM in reply to: #2328459 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread as a woman in the 45-49 year old AG I am THRILLED that I am in the 3rd wave. We are usually one of the last waves and therefore get the hottest time to run. |
| 2009-08-05 5:30 AM in reply to: #2328482 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread TriToy - 2009-08-04 8:54 PMas a woman in the 45-49 year old AG I am THRILLED that I am in the 3rd wave. We are usually one of the last waves and therefore get the hottest time to run. I can appreciate that for sure. This being my first year training, I don't really care that much about the loss of time and just want to finish on my terms (not walking) and realize that at 10:30 or 11:30 in the morning my half marathon will still be painful and slow.I just thought it was intuitive to have the people naturally faster go first to reduce the log jam at the end of the swim, the bike course and in T1. The quick math in my head tells me that T1 and the bike are going to be busier than they would be otherwise. If I was fast I'd probably be annoyed.Since I'm not experienced in setting these up or racing I was wondering why it would be staggered that way and not have the fastest age groups go first. I'm sure there is a reason that I just don't know.BTW, here's a total newb question I didn't see the answer too in the athlete guide, does the time get deducted that you have to wait? 50 minutes is a long time... |
| 2009-08-05 6:26 AM in reply to: #2328834 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread yes your time is from when your wave starts. faster swimmers from every wave catch the next wave but transition is grouped by your AG so it will not be an issue. The bike course and run course are long enough that things will spread out. I think KEJ probably mixes it up so that us older gals are not ALWAYS one of the last and running in the hottest part of the day. and 50 minutes is nothing. Chicago last year I had like 3 hours! |
| 2009-08-05 6:37 AM in reply to: #2328870 |
| Regular 1025 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread The reality is, SOMEONE is ALWAYS disappointed with where their wave starts. We break up the traditionally "Fast" age groups, to AVOID the logjam on the bike course. It also helps with the drafting issues. If you stack all of the faster age groups together, you'll get ALOT more folks getting out of the water all close together. They also have alot of folks that are similar bikers. It causes more congestion, IMO. We have a really clean race, with little drafting. This is a part of the reason. Having a bunch of waves also eases congestion on a course, as does time between waves. I suppose we could have fewer waves, closer together in time. And it'd be alot more crowded on course...... And, yes, I do have a sympathetic streak for the older age groups. Putting them at the end compounds the issues for them. They're starting later, they're slower (yes, I know, in GENERAL, not ALWAYS ), so they're out on the course at the end of the day by themselves. I always await with great excitement the emails and phone calls from folks upset about their wave start. It's not something I can win. BUT, I can, to a degree, work to create a safe, fair race for EVERYONE. That's what we try to do..... |
| 2009-08-05 7:44 AM in reply to: #2328878 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread KEJ - 2009-08-05 6:37 AM The reality is, SOMEONE is ALWAYS disappointed with where their wave starts. We break up the traditionally "Fast" age groups, to AVOID the logjam on the bike course. It also helps with the drafting issues. If you stack all of the faster age groups together, you'll get ALOT more folks getting out of the water all close together. They also have alot of folks that are similar bikers. It causes more congestion, IMO. We have a really clean race, with little drafting. This is a part of the reason. Having a bunch of waves also eases congestion on a course, as does time between waves. I suppose we could have fewer waves, closer together in time. And it'd be alot more crowded on course...... And, yes, I do have a sympathetic streak for the older age groups. Putting them at the end compounds the issues for them. They're starting later, they're slower (yes, I know, in GENERAL, not ALWAYS), so they're out on the course at the end of the day by themselves. I always await with great excitement the emails and phone calls from folks upset about their wave start. It's not something I can win. BUT, I can, to a degree, work to create a safe, fair race for EVERYONE. That's what we try to do.....In previous years I had the chance to start in the first waves and this time around I'll be on the later ones but as long as your race is as fun as always it is cool with me |
| 2009-08-05 7:48 AM in reply to: #1837309 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread That makes sense to break up the faster groups and spread them out more like that. I hadn't thought of it like that. I was just thinking faster to slower in order, but I agree that is not really fair. How's the lake looking? We going to come in at 73 or 74 degrees on race day? I'm thinking sleeveless... |
| 2009-08-05 8:58 AM in reply to: #2328482 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread TriToy - 2009-08-04 9:54 PM as a woman in the 45-49 year old AG I am THRILLED that I am in the 3rd wave. We are usually one of the last waves and therefore get the hottest time to run. x2! |
| 2009-08-05 10:45 AM in reply to: #1837309 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I am heading up to Tman with some members of the Boston tri team this weekend for some training on the course. The plannis to swim @ 8am on Saturday and then ride around 9am and do the entire course. Some will call it a day after that, I am planning to do a quick 30 min transition run. Meeting at the Beach... FYI - on Sunday I'll be riding from Waterville Valley to the top of the Kangamangus Hway and back in case anyone want to trashed test the legs a bit |
| 2009-08-05 10:46 AM in reply to: #1837309 |
Regular 64 New York City | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread As a Clyde starting in the last wave I'm just looking forward to being able to find my bike easily in T1! |
| 2009-08-05 6:11 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Expert 1168 Lansdale, PA. | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Anybody know what kind of run profile we're looking at? Or better yet, know the course well enough to map it on BT so I can see what's ahead? |
| 2009-08-05 7:39 PM in reply to: #2329181 |
Extreme Veteran 577 Connecticut | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread aquagirl - 2009-08-05 9:58 AM TriToy - 2009-08-04 9:54 PM as a woman in the 45-49 year old AG I am THRILLED that I am in the 3rd wave. We are usually one of the last waves and therefore get the hottest time to run. x2! I didn't know you two were in the old hen age group with me!! Do not swim near me either of you; you'll make me nervous!!!! |
| 2009-08-05 8:26 PM in reply to: #2330526 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread sgillen - 2009-08-05 6:11 PM Anybody know what kind of run profile we're looking at? Or better yet, know the course well enough to map it on BT so I can see what's ahead? I think it's rollers with nothing crazy and about 1200-1500ft of "climbing" all in. Not flat, but no one hill to blow you up, just cumulative fatique.... Someone confirm? I thought I saw the route mapped on here before but didn't see it when I just looked. I just saw the bike portion. Edited by acumenjay 2009-08-05 8:30 PM |
| 2009-08-05 8:59 PM in reply to: #1837309 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread not a bad run, flatish with some hills although the hill at mile 5ish and 11ish can smack you right on the face http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/united-states/nh/gilford/596210422 |
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