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2009-11-28 10:40 PM
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As a golfer as experienced as Tiger, you would think that he would know something horribly bad would happen if he played the wrong hole.  Geesh!


2009-11-29 12:20 AM
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Pector55 - 2009-11-29 12:40 AM As a golfer as experienced as Tiger, you would think that he would know something horribly bad would happen if he played the wrong hole.  Geesh!



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2009-11-29 9:15 AM
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Under FL law, he's not required to give anything besides license, registration and proof of insurance.  Why is the State Patrol investigtating a local traffic incident anyway? He wasn't on a highway.
The spousal beat-down-with-a-golf-club story is intruiging, but would require a witness at 2:25a.m.  And, once we stop to consider...if she's chasing him, she'd be behind him, so I'd expect the result to be lacerations and contusions on the skull, arms and torso.  Unless she's got a wicked slice 
2009-11-29 9:28 AM
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I think that this would have been avoided if he would have driven a FORRRRRRRRErunner.



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2009-11-29 11:55 AM
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StMaas - 2009-11-29 10:15 AM Under FL law, he's not required to give anything besides license, registration and proof of insurance.  Why is the State Patrol investigtating a local traffic incident anyway? He wasn't on a highway.
The spousal beat-down-with-a-golf-club story is intruiging, but would require a witness at 2:25a.m.  And, once we stop to consider...if she's chasing him, she'd be behind him, so I'd expect the result to be lacerations and contusions on the skull, arms and torso.  Unless she's got a wicked slice 


Tough to say unless she really Tee'd off on him while he was sitting still.  If I set a ball up on a tee and clear the area in a 20ft circle around me I still struggle to hit it right.  I can't imagine putting that ball inside a vehicle and making me chase it! 

FWIW, I'm just having fun.  I have no idea or presumptions about what may have happened and I don't really care. 
2009-11-29 1:40 PM
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OldAg92 - 2009-11-28 12:56 PM

Heh...new reports indicate he and his wife were fighting, she caused his facial lacerations, and as he was leaving she chased him down the driveway and smashed out the back window of the Escalade with a golf club, causing him to be distracted and run over the fire hydrant. 

None of this is confirmed yet, but it sounds more plausible than "just having an accident" at 2:25 a.m. and your wife smashing the back wondow and dragging you out of the Escalade on her own to try and rescue you. 



And why would you smash out the window thats the furthest away from the driver to try and get them out?  Your gonna drag a 180# guy over 2 rows of seats?


2009-11-29 6:01 PM
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My bet is that he was drunk as a skunk. That's the only time I've ever seen anybody unable to get out of their own neighborhood.
2009-11-29 6:16 PM
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DerekL - 2009-11-28 9:49 AM
tetchypoo - 2009-11-28 12:44 AM IIRC, anytime a patient is transported to a hospital, their condition is listed as serious, regardless of how serious it actually is.


Incorrect. 


Actually he is correct.

"Woods was transported to Health Central Hospital in Ocoee in serious condition, FHP said.

Woods was treated at Health Central on Friday and released.

FHP spokesman Jorge Delahoz said patients' conditions are always classified as "serious" if they are transported to a hospital."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/237/story/1079445.html

2009-11-29 6:46 PM
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ScoopJackson - 2009-11-29 6:16 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-28 9:49 AM
tetchypoo - 2009-11-28 12:44 AM IIRC, anytime a patient is transported to a hospital, their condition is listed as serious, regardless of how serious it actually is.


Incorrect. 


Actually he is correct.

"Woods was transported to Health Central Hospital in Ocoee in serious condition, FHP said.

Woods was treated at Health Central on Friday and released.

FHP spokesman Jorge Delahoz said patients' conditions are always classified as "serious" if they are transported to a hospital."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/237/story/1079445.html



Hi.  I'm a physician who works in a hospital and gives out those statuses.  They are both incorrect.
2009-11-29 8:03 PM
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DerekL - 2009-11-29 7:46 PM
ScoopJackson - 2009-11-29 6:16 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-28 9:49 AM
tetchypoo - 2009-11-28 12:44 AM IIRC, anytime a patient is transported to a hospital, their condition is listed as serious, regardless of how serious it actually is.


Incorrect. 


Actually he is correct.

"Woods was transported to Health Central Hospital in Ocoee in serious condition, FHP said.

Woods was treated at Health Central on Friday and released.

FHP spokesman Jorge Delahoz said patients' conditions are always classified as "serious" if they are transported to a hospital."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/237/story/1079445.html



Hi.  I'm a physician who works in a hospital and gives out those statuses.  They are both incorrect.


Do you work at this particular hospital? If not, is it possible that this hospital follows a different protocol?
2009-11-29 8:19 PM
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ScoopJackson - 2009-11-29 8:03 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-29 7:46 PM
ScoopJackson - 2009-11-29 6:16 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-28 9:49 AM
tetchypoo - 2009-11-28 12:44 AM IIRC, anytime a patient is transported to a hospital, their condition is listed as serious, regardless of how serious it actually is.


Incorrect. 


Actually he is correct.

"Woods was transported to Health Central Hospital in Ocoee in serious condition, FHP said.

Woods was treated at Health Central on Friday and released.

FHP spokesman Jorge Delahoz said patients' conditions are always classified as "serious" if they are transported to a hospital."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/237/story/1079445.html



Hi.  I'm a physician who works in a hospital and gives out those statuses.  They are both incorrect.


Do you work at this particular hospital? If not, is it possible that this hospital follows a different protocol?
That's the Florida Highway Patrol saying that and not a facility. It's also not what the poster to whom I responded said.


2009-11-30 8:29 AM
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Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.
2009-11-30 8:47 AM
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Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


hell if I was saw OUT at 2:25 am the cops around my area would pull me over and make up some probable cause.
2009-11-30 9:03 AM
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Leegoocrap - 2009-11-30 9:47 AM

hell if I was saw OUT at 2:25 am the cops around my area would pull me over and make up some probable cause.


+1. There's NO WAY you hit a hydrant AND a tree driving sober.
2009-11-30 9:10 AM
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Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.
2009-11-30 9:15 AM
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DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


2009-11-30 9:35 AM
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Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.
2009-11-30 9:38 AM
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I haven't read the whole thread, but this was damn funny!!!



ditchdoc - 2009-11-27 9:50 PM UPDATE: It was the Auburn TIGERS that crashed tonight. The "fireplug" was actually Alabama running back Trent Richardson. Laughing
2009-11-30 9:41 AM
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DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.


Sorry - you are correct that they would need a court order - that happens often.

HOWEVER the police didn't even investigate it because they had no probable cause - REALLY????

A single car crash at 2:25AM is probable cause virtually everywhere in the US.
2009-11-30 11:54 AM
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DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.

Not a lawyer, but if you read FS 316.1932, anyone who holds a Florida driver's license, has already consented to breath, urine and blood tests.

However, it applies only if you are arrested for suspicion of DUI. A 1-vehicle crash on a residential street in the middle of the night with an illogical story to explain why it happened seems like a good enough suspicion for an arrest for me.

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DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM

Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.


I crashed my bike during a triathlon and, even with wearing jammers, cleats and a helmet and big numbers written on my leg and shoulder, they ran an alcohol screen. They had taken blood numerous times for other vitals, but indeed tested me for intox. I never directly consented to this, but probably did when my wife signed the other permission to be traeted forms.


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Meerkat Surprise - 2009-11-30 11:54 AM

DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.

Not a lawyer, but if you read FS 316.1932, anyone who holds a Florida driver's license, has already consented to breath, urine and blood tests.

However, it applies only if you are arrested for suspicion of DUI. A 1-vehicle crash on a residential street in the middle of the night with an illogical story to explain why it happened seems like a good enough suspicion for an arrest for me.



Suspicion for an arrest?  Perhaps you forgot the sarcasm font. 
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pitt83 - 2009-11-30 12:01 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.
I crashed my bike during a triathlon and, even with wearing jammers, cleats and a helmet and big numbers written on my leg and shoulder, they ran an alcohol screen. They had taken blood numerous times for other vitals, but indeed tested me for intox. I never directly consented to this, but probably did when my wife signed the other permission to be traeted forms.
You consented to a blood draw. Big difference.
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DerekL - 2009-11-30 1:30 PM
pitt83 - 2009-11-30 12:01 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.
I crashed my bike during a triathlon and, even with wearing jammers, cleats and a helmet and big numbers written on my leg and shoulder, they ran an alcohol screen. They had taken blood numerous times for other vitals, but indeed tested me for intox. I never directly consented to this, but probably did when my wife signed the other permission to be traeted forms.
You consented to a blood draw. Big difference.

Sarcasm? Absolutely not. If Billy-Bob redneck crashes his truck through my yard at 2:30AM on a holiday weekend and is semi-conscious (at this point we don't know if it is as a result of the crash or he was that way beforehand), the police had damn well better be arresting him for suspiscion of DUI and administering the tests. Especially if he starts giving an illogical story of how/why the accident happened. I think there's 0% chance that the police say "OK, go to the hospital, and we'll talk to you when/if it's convenient for you and totally on your timetable."

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Meerkat Surprise - 2009-11-30 1:09 PM

DerekL - 2009-11-30 1:30 PM
pitt83 - 2009-11-30 12:01 PM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 10:35 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 9:15 AM
DerekL - 2009-11-30 9:10 AM
Magnum27 - 2009-11-30 8:29 AM Amazing that the police said they had no probable cause to give him a breathalyzer or blood or urine test.

HUH - if I ran into a fire hydrant & a tree at 2:25AM I think that is the first thing they would do. I think that sums up probable cause.


Celebrities really get a pass on stuff like this.


He was transported to the hospital before the police got there.


Police take blood & urine tests at the hospital ALL the time.


So tell me again what probable cause they would have to forcibly draw blood from a nonconsenting patient?  A minor traffic accident?  Good luck trying to do that to one of my patients.  That's called assault.
I crashed my bike during a triathlon and, even with wearing jammers, cleats and a helmet and big numbers written on my leg and shoulder, they ran an alcohol screen. They had taken blood numerous times for other vitals, but indeed tested me for intox. I never directly consented to this, but probably did when my wife signed the other permission to be traeted forms.
You consented to a blood draw. Big difference.

Sarcasm? Absolutely not. If Billy-Bob redneck crashes his truck through my yard at 2:30AM on a holiday weekend and is semi-conscious (at this point we don't know if it is as a result of the crash or he was that way beforehand), the police had damn well better be arresting him for suspiscion of DUI and administering the tests. Especially if he starts giving an illogical story of how/why the accident happened. I think there's 0% chance that the police say "OK, go to the hospital, and we'll talk to you when/if it's convenient for you and totally on your timetable."



So you want somebody arrested because something seems suspicious to you.   Luckily our laws don't work that way.
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