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2010-05-22 5:04 PM
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Swim leg questions:

I'm guessing my 1st 100 will be 15+ seconds faster than my 2nd.....and more than that faster than my 3rd.  I need to send the RD an accurate per/100 time.  Do I just avg them?

I'm guessing I'm the person everyone fears will clog things up.  Sorry.

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2010-05-22 5:08 PM
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nc452010 - 2010-05-22 6:04 PM

Swim leg questions:

I'm guessing my 1st 100 will be 15+ seconds faster than my 2nd.....and more than that faster than my 3rd.  I need to send the RD an accurate per/100 time.  Do I just avg them?

I'm guessing I'm the person everyone fears will clog things up.  Sorry.

jeff



I had a hard time with this too. I put 1:30/100 but could do 1:20-1:25/100 and in a sprint would come out near 1:00-1:05/100.  Obviously those are very different but what to pick? WHat is the norm? What are you supposed to pick? Sorry, this isn't answering your question...:-)
2010-05-22 5:49 PM
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What is your average pace for a 300 yard time trial. Variation between the laps would hopefully be absorbed by the 15 seconds cushion and occassional breaks. Of course sense we all suck at seeding ourselves it only makes so much difference.

2010-05-22 8:56 PM
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louiskie - 2010-05-22 6:08 PM
nc452010 - 2010-05-22 6:04 PM

Swim leg questions:

I'm guessing my 1st 100 will be 15+ seconds faster than my 2nd.....and more than that faster than my 3rd.  I need to send the RD an accurate per/100 time.  Do I just avg them?

I'm guessing I'm the person everyone fears will clog things up.  Sorry.

jeff



I had a hard time with this too. I put 1:30/100 but could do 1:20-1:25/100 and in a sprint would come out near 1:00-1:05/100.  Obviously those are very different but what to pick? WHat is the norm? What are you supposed to pick? Sorry, this isn't answering your question...:-)


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2010-05-22 9:43 PM
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fgump - 2010-05-22 9:56 PM
louiskie - 2010-05-22 6:08 PM
nc452010 - 2010-05-22 6:04 PM

Swim leg questions:

I'm guessing my 1st 100 will be 15+ seconds faster than my 2nd.....and more than that faster than my 3rd.  I need to send the RD an accurate per/100 time.  Do I just avg them?

I'm guessing I'm the person everyone fears will clog things up.  Sorry.

jeff



I had a hard time with this too. I put 1:30/100 but could do 1:20-1:25/100 and in a sprint would come out near 1:00-1:05/100.  Obviously those are very different but what to pick? WHat is the norm? What are you supposed to pick? Sorry, this isn't answering your question...:-)


You swimmers make me sick...


Dude, what I gain on the swim you make up on the run...and you look happy doing it :-)
2010-05-22 9:54 PM
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Never.....I mean NEVER confuse me with a "swimmer"!  It's a slap in the face to anyone who can tread water.

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2010-05-24 10:59 AM
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Does anyone know what the bike route is like? Hilly? Bumpy? And the run? I am assuming the swim is not too hilly though :-)
2010-05-24 11:38 AM
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louiskie - 2010-05-24 11:59 AM Does anyone know what the bike route is like? Hilly? Bumpy? And the run? I am assuming the swim is not too hilly though :-)

Doug can tell you better as he has ridden it a ton.
I rode it once, pretty flat.  A few inclines, but you have to really look for them
Didn't do the swim, but the pool looks pretty flat too
2010-05-24 11:49 AM
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Louis:

The course is four 3 mile laps. It is fairly flat. There a a number of traffic circles, only one of which presents any issues. That circle is more oblong and you enter on one short side and leave on the opposite short side upon which you enter the best "down hill" section of the course. I regularly hit in the 30's on the stretch.

The one slight uphill is in a narrow section between to circles. It does not seem to steep but I feel it every time.

The run is mostly on the sme road we bike (60%). Hills are minimal.

There is a wicked climb at about the 200 yds. mark of the swim! ;-)

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2010-05-24 11:55 AM
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I can't imagine the run out in my head.....without imagining mixed traffic (people trying to get to the LH side of the road - crossing bike traffic.  I'm sure it's not an issue, but it looks weird on paper!

Also...I'm assuming (in case I get to go down and ride it) you turn right on the bike course - everywhere (meaning, coming out of T1) and at all the traffic circles.

2010-05-24 11:58 AM
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DougRob - 2010-05-24 12:49 PM Louis:

The course is four 3 mile laps. It is fairly flat. There a a number of traffic circles, only one of which presents any issues. That circle is more oblong and you enter on one short side and leave on the opposite short side upon which you enter the best "down hill" section of the course. I regularly hit in the 30's on the stretch.

The one slight uphill is in a narrow section between to circles. It does not seem to steep but I feel it every time.

The run is mostly on the sme road we bike (60%). Hills are minimal.

There is a wicked climb at about the 200 yds. mark of the swim! ;-)

Doug


I did a few 300s on Sat morning and it seemed like there was a hill every time I got to about the 200 mark :-) Thanks for the insight Doug. I like downhills that get you to 30mph. Don't like the  corresponding uphills as much ;-)


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Louis:

If you want to preview the course in the next 10 days, send me a PM and we can try to meet up I will ride you through it. I know Jeff wants to do that as well.

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2010-05-24 12:08 PM
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nc452010 - 2010-05-24 12:55 PM I can't imagine the run out in my head.....without imagining mixed traffic (people trying to get to the LH side of the road - crossing bike traffic.  I'm sure it's not an issue, but it looks weird on paper!

Also...I'm assuming (in case I get to go down and ride it) you turn right on the bike course - everywhere (meaning, coming out of T1) and at all the traffic circles.



Yes it is all right turns. The run does not interfer with the ride much, or it didn't for me. You make aright out of transition on the bike and a left on the run. The run goes past the Bell tower and then turns onto the same road as the bike up to the first traffic circle. You go around that circle and come back. Then you turn onto some roads not on the bike course until you emerge on the main road and turn again on the road going by the Bell tower. (I know you cannot see some of this on the map).

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2010-05-24 12:23 PM
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I mapped it here: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=19037

The only spot I remember any bike/run interaction was at the turnaround traffic circle for the run. I've never had a problem because the bike course has thinned out by then.

I just skimmed through my 3 years of race reports and I tend to describe it has some uphill, but great downhills. Apparently, last year I had some trouble with a crowded course. The traffic circles are alot of fun as long as you're not bunched up. I find the one at Bedford Town drive to be the tightest one, but you can go fairly fast (for me anyway) through it if you are alone and can pick your line. I thought the oblong one was after the biggest downhill, Heading up that hill I keep most of my speed and usually fly through it terrified because the people are walking around there like they ecpect us to be slowing down for it. If no ones in the way I can fly through that one and catch a little more downhill after it.

I get that same feeling as Doug about that one climb (on each lap), it doesn't seem that steep, but it always takes it out of me.

The run is always hot and hard to me. I don't plan on hitting my run goal for the year here. I'll aim for the bike goal, but I'll have to do some good bike handling and somehow hold an okay speed on that climb.

2010-05-24 12:39 PM
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Well....Kinda last minute.  But, my schedule just free'd up for tomorrow.

Doug?  Anyone wanna ride it...or can ride it, tomorrow? I may have to just run down there in the AM (gonna be close, anyways).

Thanks for all the info guys.  Looking forward to my 1st tri, there.
2010-05-24 12:42 PM
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What time are you thinking?


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DougRob - 2010-05-24 1:04 PM Louis:

If you want to preview the course in the next 10 days, send me a PM and we can try to meet up I will ride you through it. I know Jeff wants to do that as well.

Doug


Thanks for the offer Doug. Its a little complicated for me to head up there- I don't have a replacement for my tri bike yet (I snapped the frame) and my roadie doesn't really fit in my car. And we have swim team practice for my son every...single...day...until...eternity (or so it seems) :-)
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DMarkSwan - 2010-05-24 1:23 PM

I mapped it here: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=19037

The only spot I remember any bike/run interaction was at the turnaround traffic circle for the run. I've never had a problem because the bike course has thinned out by then.

I just skimmed through my 3 years of race reports and I tend to describe it has some uphill, but great downhills. Apparently, last year I had some trouble with a crowded course. The traffic circles are alot of fun as long as you're not bunched up. I find the one at Bedford Town drive to be the tightest one, but you can go fairly fast (for me anyway) through it if you are alone and can pick your line. I thought the oblong one was after the biggest downhill, Heading up that hill I keep most of my speed and usually fly through it terrified because the people are walking around there like they ecpect us to be slowing down for it. If no ones in the way I can fly through that one and catch a little more downhill after it.

I get that same feeling as Doug about that one climb (on each lap), it doesn't seem that steep, but it always takes it out of me.

The run is always hot and hard to me. I don't plan on hitting my run goal for the year here. I'll aim for the bike goal, but I'll have to do some good bike handling and somehow hold an okay speed on that climb.



Awesome Mark! Saved me the trouble of doing that. It looks nice- that climb seems to be about 70ft vertical which is typical for around these parts...not steep but not insignificant. Looking forward to the race- anything shorter than that White Lake heatfest will be a good change of pace! Just gotta get used to pushing hard again :-) And I hope I can get a new tri bike before the race! Don't really want to do it on my old roadie!
2010-05-24 1:04 PM
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I'm kinda "open", Doug.  I could do it, anytime.  I need to head N., from there....and the earlier the better (for me).

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nc452010 - 2010-05-24 2:04 PM

I'm kinda "open", Doug.  I could do it, anytime.  I need to head N., from there....and the earlier the better (for me).



I might could meet around 7AM or a little before. At the parking lot near the ppol and tennis courts (which is the transition area.) I need to ride for an hour and then run for 20 minutes.
2010-05-24 2:30 PM
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PM me your number, Doug and I'll call you this evening.  I "might" be getting a bike, tomorrow.  I'm currently seeking permission!

Worst case scenario.....I'll ride with you in the  AM....lol.  Best case scenario.....I'll ride my new bike here, tomorrow.


2010-05-25 9:08 AM
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FYI: 

I rode the bike route this AM. There is a new road patch in the traffic circle at Befordtown Dr. and Falls River Rd. Right at the inside curb they have done a patach. This would be in the optimium line going around the circle. This was the most technical of the circles I was talking about.

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2010-05-26 11:16 AM
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I rode a few laps yesterday on the bike course with my mountain bike and compared to my last few races I would have to consider this course flat because it lacks those huge uphills that do me in.  I also think that with three mile loops I'll see more bikes on the course and this should help me ride harder/faster. 

2010-05-26 7:40 PM
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Note to all the people who pass/lap me on the bike course:

I just got my very first tri bike, yesterday.  YES...IT DOES look very fast.  It's owner is not currently qualified to operate it at high speeds.  DO NOT succumb to a false sense of accomplishment as you zoom by.  The driver is also old.

I also have a photographic memory.  If you pass me on the bike....and I pass you on the run....I will remember you and HORSE LAUGH YOU in front of your family at the finish.  Not for spite.  But, because I'm a slow runner, too.  It'll be that funny.

Because I'm also a slow swimmer, it's a good chance you'll never see me, after you start, though.....unless you're lapping me.

Race hard....and be nice.Cool

2010-06-01 10:12 AM
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I just signed up to BT, and I'm signed up for the race on Saturday. I'll be packhorsing it on a MTB, so look for me on the right hand side of the road with the flashers on when going up the hills. I have been over to ride the race course a few times. It's not bad but there are some long, steady uphills that get the legs burning - especially on the section where you enter the non-neighborhood section on Dunn. This will be my first Tri... looking forward to it!
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