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 2010-05-28 11:29 AM |
Master  2356    Westlake Village , Ca. |  Subject: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched....To kilometers over miles and yards? It is just SO much easier to do splits and pace and to figure out what pace gives you what total time....without getting into some serious math. I would only have a problem in the pool as I swim in a 25yard pool. But I am seriously thinking of converting over on the bike and run to train in Kilometers. 90% of the races I do are in Kilometers anyways. Obviously, this is directed at my American counterparts....and no, I don't hate America  |
| 2010-05-28 11:33 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
| Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... I measure everything in inches. It makes my avg pace and monthly totals look AWESOME!!! |
| 2010-05-28 11:35 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
Champion 9600  Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... All my races still have mile markers. |
| 2010-05-28 11:38 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
Master 2355 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... doesn't matter to me.. I ride in km, run in miles and swim in both yards and meters. I'm just so use to converting in my head that I don't think twice about it. |
| 2010-05-28 11:38 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
| Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. |
| 2010-05-28 11:39 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
Extreme Veteran 875 Issaquah | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... +1, I use metric units a lot. Run/bike, measuring/building things etc. It's just much easier than dealing with all the odd fractions that Imperial units require. |
| 2010-05-28 11:40 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... I just don't have frame of references for Kilometers. I'm better with meters to yards for a frame of reference but if someone said that went out a ran 38K today. The only I know, is its 4K less than a marthon and would try to do the math in my head to make it mean something. No dice for me. I'll stick to yards and miles thanks  |
| 2010-05-28 11:48 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
Regular 73 Odessa | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... I am good at math so this really doesn't bother me. To estimate in your head, multiply the kilometers x 6 and drop the last number. This will give you an idea of the miles. EX: 10 km x 6 = 60 (drop the last digit) = 6 Miles. Actual: 10 km = 6.21.. miles |
| 2010-05-28 11:49 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... I'm not in the States but I'm old enough to have grown up with feet and miles before they went metric here in Canada. I still usually think in feet and miles first but metric comes pretty easily now too. I often run on a 200m indoor track, and have my bike computer and Garmin set to kilometers. I only took up swimming a few years ago so meters are all I've ever used there. To get used to it, you just have to start using it and it will become more familiar. I did put a conversion table in my log to help keep it in perspective though. |
| 2010-05-28 11:51 AM in reply to: #2888730 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... cnsegura - 2010-05-28 12:39 PM +1, I use metric units a lot. Run/bike, measuring/building things etc. It's just much easier than dealing with all the odd fractions that Imperial units require. How do imperial units result in fractions? My FR305 reads in miles and decimals, not fractions. (disclaimer - I work in heavy construction, where we see plans in feet/inches, feet/decimals, and occasionally metric, so I might just be more accustomed to mixing different kinds of units of measure than most people) |
| 2010-05-28 11:56 AM in reply to: #2888699 |
| Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Thinking about it I'm laughing. I'm a pilot so going to/from statute miles nautical miles kilometers and back and forth tends to become if not second nature, at least don't take much time at all. No, I take whatever units they post 'em in and left to my own devices I tend to think in statute miles. |
| 2010-05-28 12:02 PM in reply to: #2888727 |
Master 2356 Westlake Village , Ca. | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... DanielG - 2010-05-28 9:38 AM Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. lol...yeah, if everyone ran 10 minute miles, that would be great! What if you are running a 7:23 minute mile and want to know what your finishing time for a 10k would be? Kind of tough to do that in your head on the fly.... But if you know you are running 4:54 minute kilometer...then it's easy to do the math on the fly...you know you are gonna run a 45:40 or there about for a 10K I don't think there is any debating which system is easier for conversions. |
| 2010-05-28 12:08 PM in reply to: #2888813 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Fastyellow - 2010-05-28 1:02 PM DanielG - 2010-05-28 9:38 AM Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. lol...yeah, if everyone ran 10 minute miles, that would be great! What if you are running a 7:23 minute mile and want to know what your finishing time for a 10k would be? Kind of tough to do that in your head on the fly.... But if you know you are running 4:54 minute kilometer...then it's easy to do the math on the fly...you know you are gonna run a 45:40 or there about for a 10K I don't think there is any debating which system is easier for conversions. This is why I don't understand how that's easier. A 4:54/km pace is a 49 min 10k, not 45:40. You still need to adjust all the minutes/seconds regardless of the distance, so the math isn't any easier. The only way you would get around it is if you can set your gps/time keeping device to minutes and decimals instead of minutes and seconds. |
| 2010-05-28 12:09 PM in reply to: #2888720 |
Master 2356 Westlake Village , Ca. | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... bryancd - 2010-05-28 9:35 AM All my races still have mile markers. Totally...mine too and I think this is kind of odd. You are running a 5k or whatever, and they have mile markers...lol...doesn't that seem weird to anyone? The only reason I'm thinking about this was because of the Tour of California...all the markers are in Kilometers...that's why this came up. It just makes sense that if the distance of a race is in kilometers...then the markers should also be???? |
| 2010-05-28 12:09 PM in reply to: #2888813 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico Bronze member | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Fastyellow - 2010-05-28 12:02 PM DanielG - 2010-05-28 9:38 AM Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. lol...yeah, if everyone ran 10 minute miles, that would be great! What if you are running a 7:23 minute mile and want to know what your finishing time for a 10k would be? Kind of tough to do that in your head on the fly.... But if you know you are running 4:54 minute kilometer...then it's easy to do the math on the fly...you know you are gonna run a 45:40 or there about for a 10K I don't think there is any debating which system is easier for conversions. And then you'd be dissapointed when you're still 680 meters from the finish line... 4:54 is 4.90 minutes/km x10 km = 49 minutes for a 10K. |
| 2010-05-28 12:12 PM in reply to: #2888699 |
Elite 3090 Spokane, WA | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... I live in the US, so everything in imperial for me. I remember going to school and being taught the metric system and being told some day we'd convert. Still waiting. I'm just glad my speedometer has metric so that when I'm in Canada I don't have to do those pesky conversions |
| 2010-05-28 12:13 PM in reply to: #2888813 |
| Master 2009 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Fastyellow - 2010-05-28 1:02 PM DanielG - 2010-05-28 9:38 AM Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. lol...yeah, if everyone ran 10 minute miles, that would be great! What if you are running a 7:23 minute mile and want to know what your finishing time for a 10k would be? Kind of tough to do that in your head on the fly.... But if you know you are running 4:54 minute kilometer...then it's easy to do the math on the fly...you know you are gonna run a 45:40 or there about for a 10K I don't think there is any debating which system is easier for conversions. I can only dream of my problem being running and converting a 7:23 mile.  |
| 2010-05-28 12:17 PM in reply to: #2888763 |
Extreme Veteran 875 Issaquah | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... TriMyBest - 2010-05-28 9:51 AM cnsegura - 2010-05-28 12:39 PM +1, I use metric units a lot. Run/bike, measuring/building things etc. It's just much easier than dealing with all the odd fractions that Imperial units require. How do imperial units result in fractions? My FR305 reads in miles and decimals, not fractions. (disclaimer - I work in heavy construction, where we see plans in feet/inches, feet/decimals, and occasionally metric, so I might just be more accustomed to mixing different kinds of units of measure than most people) I was more thinking about measuring around the house when I made that statement... (easier for me to add up a bunch of measurements in mm/cm rather than have to convert a bunch of fractions to decimals and then back again if I need to measure out the total) but in general I use metric for distance more than imperial units these days. It's not really that big a deal, but similar to you, much of my career has dealt with distances in metric units rather than imperial. Since already have a good point of reference for metric units it's easier just to stay in that one system (if a race is denoted in metric units) rather than have to convert back and forth. |
| 2010-05-28 12:17 PM in reply to: #2888832 |
Master 2356 Westlake Village , Ca. | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... McFuzz - 2010-05-28 10:09 AM And then you'd be dissapointed when you're still 680 meters from the finish line... 4:54 is 4.90 minutes/km x10 km = 49 minutes for a 10K. Such an embarrassing fail on my part....jesus, what an idiot. I'll stick with miles...LOL. |
| 2010-05-28 12:26 PM in reply to: #2888857 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Fastyellow - 2010-05-28 1:17 PM McFuzz - 2010-05-28 10:09 AM And then you'd be dissapointed when you're still 680 meters from the finish line... 4:54 is 4.90 minutes/km x10 km = 49 minutes for a 10K. Such an embarrassing fail on my part....jesus, what an idiot. I'll stick with miles...LOL. LMAO! |
| 2010-05-28 12:30 PM in reply to: #2888832 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... McFuzz - 2010-05-28 12:09 PM Fastyellow - 2010-05-28 12:02 PM DanielG - 2010-05-28 9:38 AM Maybe I'm missing something but how hard is: 10 minute miles is how long (time) for 13.1 miles decimal moving is not exactly rocket science. lol...yeah, if everyone ran 10 minute miles, that would be great! What if you are running a 7:23 minute mile and want to know what your finishing time for a 10k would be? Kind of tough to do that in your head on the fly.... But if you know you are running 4:54 minute kilometer...then it's easy to do the math on the fly...you know you are gonna run a 45:40 or there about for a 10K I don't think there is any debating which system is easier for conversions. And then you'd be dissapointed when you're still 680 meters from the finish line... 4:54 is 4.90 minutes/km x10 km = 49 minutes for a 10K. OWNED!!!  |
| 2010-05-28 12:40 PM in reply to: #2888699 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... When I was in about the 3rd grade, President Nixon came out with a Presidential Directive that said by 1990 the entire nation would be coverted over to the metric system. I still remember thinking that was so far in the future.... I run km becuase they are shorter than miles. :-) In 1999 NASA lost a $125 million dollar Mars explorer becasue contractor Lockheed-Martin used the English system and it was not coverted to SI units. ~Mike |
| 2010-05-28 12:42 PM in reply to: #2888918 |
| Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... Rogillio - 2010-05-28 1:40 PM In 1999 NASA lost a $125 million dollar Mars explorer becasue contractor Lockheed-Martin used the English system and it was not coverted to SI units. ~Mike It was still 680 meters from the ground and shut off its engine |
| 2010-05-28 12:44 PM in reply to: #2888699 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... |
| 2010-05-28 12:53 PM in reply to: #2888699 |
Master 1970 Somewhere on the Tennessee River | Subject: RE: Anyone thinking of switching...or already switched.... My preferred metric is to measure everything in furlongs per fortnight. That's just me, of course..... but then, I am a mathematician and physicist.  It just numbers.... |
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