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2005-07-27 8:39 AM

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Subject: What is this on the rider's bike?

Notice the four riders with some type of yellow thing on their rear hub.

Anyone know what this is?





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2005-07-27 8:43 AM
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I'd bet that it's the transponder for recording their times.
2005-07-27 8:43 AM
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Subject: RE: What is this on the rider's bike?
it's kinda like the timming chips you wear for races, these are attached to their bikes though.
2005-07-27 8:46 AM
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I was thinking it was a timeing chip, but wasn't sure.
2005-07-27 8:57 AM
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GPS locators so that time splits are real time.

Remember when Vino had to have his cut off?  His time up that climb was never exact during the stage after that.

2005-07-27 9:17 AM
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MMMM....Lance....


2005-07-27 9:57 AM
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Do their backup bikes have these fastened as well? Must be. Remember Rasmussen used what, 4 bikes during the last time trial.

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2005-07-27 10:29 AM
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They don't use them in the time trials.

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2005-07-27 10:38 AM
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yaqui - 2005-07-27 8:29 AM

They don't use them in the time trials.

scott

Actually, I believe they do. Rasmussen had about 4 bike changes during the last time trial and they said they couldn't get his time checks because the spare bikes didn't have the doohickey on them.

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2005-07-27 10:43 AM
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2005-07-27 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: What is this on the rider's bike?
THEY ARE POWER METERS! Records Wattage, Output, Speed, Distance...


2005-07-27 11:11 AM
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swbkrun - 2005-07-27 8:51 AM

THEY ARE POWER METERS! Records Wattage, Output, Speed, Distance...

What makes you sure of that?

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2005-07-27 11:13 AM
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By brother as one, and I asked him the same question.. What the hell is that yellow thing on your rear hub...
2005-07-27 12:10 PM
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No, they don't.

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And they're transponders, not powermeters. The riders with saddle bags have power meter transmitters.

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2005-07-27 12:12 PM
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The yellow thing on your brothers hub is a power tap, which is a power meter, but not what you see in the pictures posted. Those are transponders.

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2005-07-27 12:15 PM
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swbkrun - 2005-07-27 9:13 AM

My brother has one, and I asked him the same question.. What the hell is that yellow thing on your rear hub...

Your brother has a different yellow thing. His may be a power meter, but the yellow things on the left chainstay of the Tour bikes are timing transponders.

If you saw stage 11 where Botero and Vinokourov broke away, you may have noticed Vinokourov's "yellow thing" came loose. Here is the Newsflash from the official Tour site (http://www.letour.com) about that incident, where the "yellow thing" is identified as the timing sensor.

16:55 - Problems With Vinokourov’s Bike
The sensor that is attached to Vinokourov's bike (to record his time) has come loose during the stage. It is perilously close to his spokes but the team mechanic has just come up with a high-speed repair solution: cut it off...!

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2005-07-27 1:27 PM
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Subject: RE: What is this on the rider's bike?
This is what a power meter looks like-



and it works along with cranks that look like this-



The Pros bikes are getting so light that now they can race with an SRM Power Meter, because it helps get the bike OVER the UCI minimum weight.
2005-07-27 5:46 PM
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THe yellow things are transponders. According to the Eurosport commentators crew during the broadcast of the event, some riders even used it to send HRM data (remember Vino and others?) to their rqce directors. It was really nice to hear the comentators tell what the HR was for this and that rider, at equal speeds in the peloton, and you have no idea how different they were sometimes.

It also provided timing and speed information, but I can not recall anyone ever mentioning GPS data. They are mandatory, but the replacement bikes do not have fit in and are optional.

2005-07-27 5:51 PM
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POWER METERS are what they are. It's understandable were all mistified by them b/c there about a grand a pop.
2005-07-27 6:22 PM
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2005-07-27 6:24 PM
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I stand corrected.


2005-07-27 6:29 PM
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>>"POWER METERS are what they are..."

No, they aren't.

This yellow thing is a Power Tap. It's a hub in a rear wheel that measures power, thus it's a power meter.



These yellow things are transponders. They track the riders during the TdF.



Pictured above in this thread was an SRM. It's the Mercedes of power meters.

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2005-07-27 6:34 PM
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yaqui - 2005-07-27 10:10 AM

No, they don't.

TT

And they're transponders, not powermeters. The riders with saddle bags have power meter transmitters.

scott

Yes, they do.

Just because you can't see it in the photo, doesn't mean it's not there...

The following exerpt from the Stage 20 Newsflashes on http://www.letour.com makes it clear that the transponders are used during time trials.

17:06 - Still No Time Check For Rasmussen
There is no time check for Rasmussen at the 35km mark. The Danish rider has changed his bike numerous times during the stage and he’s missing the sensor which records the time. We haven’t seen anything of him since his second crash of the stage but can report that he’s having a torrid time of it today.

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2005-07-27 7:46 PM
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Subject: RE: What is this on the rider's bike?
Of course maybe, just maybe, the commentators didn't realize that they were taking manual time checks instead of relying on yellow transponders that weren't attached to the TT bikes.

Seriously though, I was bored on a conference call and looked at dozens of pictures from all three time trials. There isn't a transponder on any of the bikes in any of the pictures. Considering how much effort goes into shaving these bikes down, to the point of making the BB mm's thinner, why would they want those transponders on them?

I suppose it is possible they have some other type of timing device on them, just not those referred to in the original post. Dunno.

Anyway, the main point I had been making was the purpose of the device. In the meantime it's been fun looking at all the pictures again.

scott





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