Men, enlighten me?

To clarify:

No, I don't think all men are dbags. Just the ones who feel it is OK to do this to women (or anyone, for that matter). I was followed for blocks this morning by two guys in a truck yelling and honking at me, while I tried to ignore them and turned up my head phones (and ran faster than I ever have before). Finally lost them by standing and refusing to move from the busiest corner I could find, then scooting across the train tracks just before the barriers dropped for the morning train.

I just wonder...do these people not have moms? Do they not have sisters? Daughters? How would they feel if they were doing this same thing to one of them.

Edited by phoenixazul 2011-01-04 9:44 PM

Because other women tell them it is acceptable and actively attempt to garner such attention in order to bolster their self-esteem.  And if you (male or female) say anything about it you are often the one castigated.

I'll take a stab...  As a guy... But NEVER has done that (honked).

I don't think we/they are expecting a date.  So don't get TOO ahead of yourself...  I'm guessing they like what they see from behind, and want to see a face to get the whole picture...  If you honk, you look, they see...

Even the biggest red neck in the world doesn't thnk that's a mating call.

I once had a guy in the passenger seat of a truck lean out the window and try to smack my *ss while I was running. Seriously. I keep my earphones in only one ear for that reason. If I hadn't heard the truck getting "too" close, I would have been struck by the passenger side mirror. When I turned around I saw his arm out the window. I nearly twisted my ankle dodging that disaster. Sorry!!!

Most of the drivers here in Texas are pretty friendly and everyone waves, but there's always those that suck. Especially the jackwagons who step on the gas and leave you in their diesel exhaust. There is a special place in hell for them.

Maybe I just hang out with like-minded people, but I don't know one woman who likes or encourages this type of behavior from men or anyone. Self-esteem issues and all.

It is definitely harassment, and ridiculous. Happens to me almost every run, too.

The funny thing is almost every GUY runner I know enjoys being honked or hollered at - they even brag about it.
I don't know if it's a confidence thing or upbringing thing or what, but definitely a difference between men and women in that regard.

I was honked at by a garbage truck once.

Just bizarre.

I am a guy but I have never done that before or even had friends that do that. it is one thing to take a quick look at an in shape lady out for a workout but I never honk or call attention to them or myself (and not just because I am married). Personally I consider it extremely immature and horribly impolite as do my friends.

I think those guys are just morons. I would ignore them to the best of your ability and if they slow down and roll down a window, pull out your cell phone to call 911 and tell them you are reporting them for harassment. - slows down your workout but maybe it will open their eyes to their stupidity (ok probably not but you never know)

I hate it... Scares the bejebus out of me... I live in the land of "rocks" that are used for landscaping...  Nice, golfball sized rocks...  After the first honk and half a heart attack...  I grab some of the local "landscaping" with the of introducing it the rear window of the NEXT honker...

But alas, the opportunity never arises... It's usually one and done, when it comes to honking during a run.

Maybe I expressed myself poorly and most certainly the stated behavior is way over the top.

Bit hard to tell the difference between men and boys isn't it?

Just be glad you get harrassment, at that time of the morning when a car approaches in some places I train, I just pray it's only an egg they are throwing

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Nothing worse than being in the zone during a long run and suddenly thinking you're about to be hit by a car.

I guess I'd be flattered, but the girls honking are probably underage anyhow.

Beep Beep!

No idea.  If I want to stare at someone, why draw attention to myself?  If I think I should talk to them, we'll I guess I'd have to pull over, get out, and catch up!

-eric 

Wow, I tap my horn all the time, but not for gender specific reasons.  In fact today I was on a very long and lonely stretch of freeway, way out in the middle of the desert, and saw three cyclists on the other side of the road, when I hadn't even seen another car for hours.

I tapped the horn twice followed by a thumbs up, hopefully letting them know I recognize and support their efforts.

But then I wave at most riders while I am out riding too.

Those aren't men. They're..... well, maybe : "Dbags, enlighten me?" is more appropriate title here.

No problem, I'll be happy to enlighten you.

Some people are pigs. You happened to run into one of the male versions, who have, sadly enough, not been blessed with parents who would teach them to act decently. Obviously, they were missing a proper role model growing up, and no one bothered to teach them the obvious.

I'm not going to apologize on their behalf, since I take responsibility for my actions, and those of my children, but I will hope that their airbags spontaniously inflate at the next stop light after they whistle. To be followed by four flat tires.

You can whistle while jogging past.

I am really sorry for these incidents, especially the one where you were followed and yelled at for blocks. HORRID.
I would not call following you for blocks harmless and I'd also suspect alcohol and if anyone is following you for ANY distance, especially confrontatively, I would whip out the cell and call 911 and be sure to take the license plate and make a big deal out of looking at the number.

I think I fall a bit out of the norm ... just in my opinion and experience, the vast majority of the time, these guys are in fact harmless (to be fair I've had women do this to me, too). Rude, annoying, stupid, but harmless. I actually smile and wave back appreciatively and yell HOW ARE YOU and this almost always seems to take them aback! Most of these guys are, as pointed out and obviously, completely infantile and it's the egging on/teasing/chase that drives them. When I am direct, they back off.

own that path. it is yours. make sure someone always knows your route and when you'll be back. take some safety/self-defense classes at your uni; it may help.

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I don't apologize because I don't do it nor have I ever encouraged it. Perhaps those who participate in the behaviour should apologize.

Some people live to get reactions from others. The reaction doesn't have to be positive, just a reaction. When you flip them off you are reinforcing their behaviour and they will continue to do it.

Read up on behaviour modification, the occasional reward (every random number of runners reacting to them) continues the behaviour longer than if it never came or if it were a constant then stopped.

Every time you give them a reaction, you guarantee they'll continue to honk at other people running.

I must admit that I do give a light honk on the horn when i am passing cyclists or runners, espeically when I am certain they have ear plugs in, just to let them know I am there.
I know a couple of times I didn't hear a vehicle behind me and had a close call or two.
But it is never sexual.  

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I really don't feel that we've made the entire step, most days.