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2005-08-16 12:03 PM

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Subject: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
I know most here have already recommended the use of race belts to display numbers on the run, but I think the usual assumption is that you're wearing your top under your wetsuit during the swim. I've actually found it pretty easy to don my shirt after peeling the wetsuit off and am wondering if simply pinning the number to my shirt ahead of time make more sense than struggling with an extra piece of equipment, buckle, etc.

Thanks for re-visiting this with me!



2005-08-16 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
Usually the material to make the number is pretty sturdy. Why not put on the race belt under your wetsuit?
2005-08-16 12:16 PM
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Thanks...if true about the material, then your's is an ideal solution. Of course, once I throw my shirt on it may obscure the number, no? Is it supposed to hang down in front like a loincloth??? Sorry for the visual...
2005-08-16 12:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
AikiPapi - 2005-08-16 10:16 AM

Thanks...if true about the material, then your's is an ideal solution. Of course, once I throw my shirt on it may obscure the number, no? Is it supposed to hang down in front like a loincloth??? Sorry for the visual...


What? Your avatar has a moose knuckle in it -- be realistic.

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2005-08-16 1:11 PM
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Ahhh...I knew there was going to be some value to this thread. The loincloth approach might be just what the moose-knuckle ordered!
2005-08-16 1:30 PM
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I hate to have a number flapping around on the bike, so I use a race belt and rely on the frame number and helmet sticker for the bike. It takes almost zero time to put on a race belt if you can fasten the buckle while running.


2005-08-16 3:07 PM
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I use a race belt (put it on in T1...haven't had helmet/bike numbers at any race yet) mainly because I don't want to ruin my swim suit or my tri shorts. Plus I *know* that the number will still be there even after i come flying down the hill...not so much with pins often. Plus I hate running in a shirt...hell i'd prefer to run naked if I wouldn't get arrested. Plus, I don't know what it is about my skin, but my body markings come off really, really really easily.
2005-08-16 3:17 PM
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phoenixazul - 2005-08-16 2:07 PM

I use a race belt (put it on in T1...haven't had helmet/bike numbers at any race yet) mainly because I don't want to ruin my swim suit or my tri shorts. Plus I *know* that the number will still be there even after i come flying down the hill...not so much with pins often. Plus I hate running in a shirt...hell i'd prefer to run naked if I wouldn't get arrested.


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Plus, I don't know what it is about my skin, but my body markings come off really, really really easily.


Must be a nice problem to have, I can't get it off with steel wool... days after the race when I'm wearing a short sleeve shirt my friends give me all kinds of flack. ("C'mon man, it's been three days, it's time to take a bath.")

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2005-08-16 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
I have a question, since my first tri is this weekend I don't know all the rules yet.

Can you wear the number on your back or does it have to be on the front? What happens if the number falls off. I am guessing that's not a big deal right?

I feel like I have been asking a lot of dumb questions recently. I can't wait to get my first experience over with so I have a little more info on how this thing works.
2005-08-16 4:33 PM
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Hard to put the shirt on when  your wet, huffing and puffing, adrenaline pulsing and all of a sudden you see that other competitor that came out of the water same time as you and you want need to catch them........And you have a number pinned to the shirt and it sticks to your shoulders. and all of a sudden you hear rip.  Pin just ripped two of the holes.

My vote goes to a race belt.   Since I have done the wrestling match with my jersey before.

2005-08-16 4:35 PM
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BellinghamSpence - 2005-08-16 3:33 PM

Hard to put the shirt on when  your wet, huffing and puffing, adrenaline pulsing and all of a sudden you see that other competitor that came out of the water same time as you and you want need to catch them........And you have a number pinned to the shirt and it sticks to your shoulders. and all of a sudden you hear rip.  Pin just ripped two of the holes.

My vote goes to a race belt.   Since I have done the wrestling match with my jersey before.

At River Cities I saw at least two guys on the bike that were unsuccessful in their wrestling efforts, riding their bikes with their jerseys still rolled up around their shoulders in the back. I learned in my first tri to either wear the shirt during the swim or do without.

Another vote for the race belt.



2005-08-16 4:36 PM
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what about tape. Can you tape it on?
2005-08-16 7:27 PM
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O.K.-- I was going to go the shirt route but this thread completely changed my mind. I bought a race belt on my lunch hour today.
2005-08-16 10:08 PM
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Brett - 2005-08-16 4:17 PM

phoenixazul - 2005-08-16 2:07 PM

I use a race belt (put it on in T1...haven't had helmet/bike numbers at any race yet) mainly because I don't want to ruin my swim suit or my tri shorts. Plus I *know* that the number will still be there even after i come flying down the hill...not so much with pins often. Plus I hate running in a shirt...hell i'd prefer to run naked if I wouldn't get arrested.


If I ever become USAT prez., your wish is my command.

Plus, I don't know what it is about my skin, but my body markings come off really, really really easily.


Must be a nice problem to have, I can't get it off with steel wool... days after the race when I'm wearing a short sleeve shirt my friends give me all kinds of flack. ("C'mon man, it's been three days, it's time to take a bath.")

bts


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2005-08-16 10:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
AikiPapi - 2005-08-16 1:03 PMI know most here have already recommended the use of race belts to display numbers on the run, but I think the usual assumption is that you're wearing your top under your wetsuit during the swim. I've actually found it pretty easy to don my shirt after peeling the wetsuit off and am wondering if simply pinning the number to my shirt ahead of time make more sense than struggling with an extra piece of equipment, buckle, etc.Thanks for re-visiting this with me!


There are two problems with pinning it to your shirt.  The first is that it might tear the shirt as you're trying to wrangle a shirt onto a wet body.  The second is that you might forget to pin it to your shirt and find yourself with numb fingers attempting to quickly work the pins in transition.

I worked at a triathlon in the transition area and was frankly surprised at how many people screwed up T2, and forgetting their race numbers was probably the second most common screw-up.  (Not knowing where the run exit was easily made #1.)

In two cases I ran and grabbed people's race belts and dashed them over to the run exit shoot because the atheletes couldn't go back over the timing pad once they left T2, yet they needed their race numbers to finish the run.  It probably counted as "assistance", but no one docked them.  The time they wasted standing around  was punishment enough. 

So I guess this counts as a vote against race numbers, except that it really did make it easy to hand them their belts.

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2005-08-16 10:36 PM
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Gwendal - 2005-08-16 9:20 PM

I worked at a triathlon in the transition area and was frankly surprised at how many people screwed up T2, and forgetting their race numbers was probably the second most common screw-up.


Exactly why I always suggest newbies put everything on in T1. Set it and forget it. Once you're an old hand at Transitions you can forego the racebelt in T1 and put it on as you exit T2. If I wear a wetsuit I pin the number to my tri jersey which I wear under the wetsuit. Fast transitions are so much fun. No socks, no gloves, never put on clothing especially over wet skin. Leave the sunglasses for long events, and don't eat unless you're moving.


2005-08-17 5:11 PM
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the bear - 2005-08-16 1:35 PM
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Hard to put the shirt on when  your wet, huffing and puffing, adrenaline pulsing and all of a sudden you see that other competitor that came out of the water same time as you and you want need to catch them........And you have a number pinned to the shirt and it sticks to your shoulders. and all of a sudden you hear rip.  Pin just ripped two of the holes.

My vote goes to a race belt.   Since I have done the wrestling match with my jersey before.

At River Cities I saw at least two guys on the bike that were unsuccessful in their wrestling efforts, riding their bikes with their jerseys still rolled up around their shoulders in the back. I learned in my first tri to either wear the shirt during the swim or do without.

Another vote for the race belt.

It's kinda funny when you look back at the race and see other having the same problem as yourself..

Wrestled and lost AGAINST A STUPID SHIRT!.  And the first thought is to ask somebody close by to help, and nobody is around and pride takes over,  and you can't  see because your glasses are fogging up and sweat is running into your eyes.  Just about ready to scream out some &&^@%$!^.   Plus pins are notorius about popping open and sticking you after wrestling with the shirt.



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2005-08-17 7:04 PM
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phoenixazul - 2005-08-16 1:07 PM

Plus, I don't know what it is about my skin, but my body markings come off really, really really easily.


do you put on sunscreen before getting marked? that'll do it.
2005-08-17 7:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
Just staple it to your chest. That should take no more than 1 second for each staple.
Seriously, I would go with the belt. You can fasten it as you're running out of T1 or T2, whichever transition works better for you.
2005-08-18 10:10 AM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt
I highly recommend the belt.....it's the only way to go. I recently tried wearing it under my wetsuite and found out that the material wasn't all that great. I ended up with little piece of my race number matted to the inside of my wetsuit.

Overall I like the phrase set it and forget it.

2005-08-18 10:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Race Belts vs. Donning Shirt

I'm using Fuel Belt right now.  Has the the little squeezy thingys that hold the bib number on a cord.      My first belt sucked....It was a Nathans brand (not the hot dog).  The belt had plastic hooks,  and I always had to tear the holes a little bigger to fit on the plastic hooks, than had to sweat the bib slipping off....Poor thinking in the design.

So check out how the belt works before buying.



2005-08-18 12:31 PM
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I also recommend the race belt.  I use it for road races to  so i don't put holes in those nice yet expensive Dri-fit shirts.  Mine also has the silly plastic snaps which i don't quite trust, so I usually back them up with a couple of pins into the belt itself.  Works fine, at lesat until i find a differnt type of race belt.

2005-08-18 1:38 PM
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my last race, I was it t1 for about 3 1/2 mins!!! Most of that time was fighting stupid shirt (not me, it was the shirt). Next race is on Sun and I will swim in shirt and use race belt.
2005-08-18 4:27 PM
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They should make a race jersey that has little built-in clips for attaching a number. If the size of the number sheet was standardized this would be possible and practical and profitable.
2005-08-18 6:43 PM
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My vote is definitely for the belt. I used one for the first time at my race two weeks ago and couldn't believe how much easier it made my life!  I stuck it in my running shoe so I wouldn't forget it and clipped it on as I ran out of T2.

I considered both duct tape and staples, but thought that might get ugly and would probably be the only pictures of me that ended up posted by the official race photographer...

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