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2012-04-26 1:01 PM
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kstater39 - 2012-04-26 11:40 AM

Better wait to call it when we get 3 days out. My money is that the 10 day has no clue what the weather will be.


Actually predicting weather here in the south west is pretty easy. We have a warming trend building over the past week. Had a front move through this morning bringing rain and wind but it's already gone and the temps are going to be rising. It will be warm. The upside is that at least early in the day, it might not be too windy. The resevoir water will continue to warm up and race morning should be in the high 50's. Perfect.


2012-04-26 1:52 PM
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I like using Accuweather and it shows some nasty heat on the 5th.......94 degrees.  Say bye bye to to my expected marathon time.  
2012-04-26 2:17 PM
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3Aims - 2012-04-26 2:52 PM I like using Accuweather and it shows some nasty heat on the 5th.......94 degrees.  Say bye bye to to my expected marathon time.  

Us cold weather folks don't like that kind of talk  Smile  Or at least I don't anyway!

2012-04-26 2:47 PM
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I love all of the things that let us know race day is getting close. Making the 10-day weather forecast window is always a big one. Previously, I noticed smaller things like when the expiration date on the yogurt matched up with race day. Just fun little things that give my taper-brain something to think about.
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2012-04-26 2:52 PM
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It's probably safe to assume the high temp will be between 85-95. FWIW, Accuweather is calling for PM rain on the 5th. 10 day forecast for rain??

Oh well, I'll be in Monday and am looking forward to it. I'll have to adjust a tad to the altitude, coming from a few hundred feet above sea level here in FL.

Have a great race everyone, stay hydrated.


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2012-04-26 3:11 PM
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gwbuild - 2012-04-25 10:45 PM

PBMan or others - Is there a group ride this weekend from the ball park? Seems like I remember there being a Sat or Sun ride usually formed up...

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Hey gwbuild, should be someone leaving from the ballpark at 8 and 9. My crew of 3 will be leaving from the bank parking lot at the finish line on Main St. at 9am for one sedate loop and a t-run on course. There will be a womens century ride staging from the same parking lot so if you can stomach seeing hundreds of women in tight spandex, please join us.

 

 



2012-04-26 3:20 PM
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I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone.  
2012-04-26 4:22 PM
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"I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone."

Isn't that the truth? After all that volume, I feel like such a slacker if I only run for an hour or whatever. It's all good though. Just don't eat yourself into oblivion!

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2012-04-26 4:29 PM
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And it's official. St. George will become a 70.3 next year. http://ironman.com/mediacenter/pressreleases/event-becomes-ironman-... />
2012-04-26 6:11 PM
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Bringing back the old run course will make this an awesome 70.3.

I know it's funny to joke about the weather and all, but living out here I can tell you all it will be hot so rather then stress, simply PREPARE.
2012-04-26 6:17 PM
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3Aims - 2012-04-26 2:20 PM

I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone.  


Ahh, the taper. Here's the bottom line. You should never feel very good during the taper. A proper taper is a balance between maintaining fitness through decreasing volume and intensity and allowing for a gradual recovery. It is impossible to build any meaningful fitness 10 days before the race. It is possible to do too much and never allow for recovery. Your workouts during this time will feel flat. Little phantom aches and pains will manifest, and you will generally feel like a big lazy blob. If you do, you are in perfect form. My goal is to wake up race morning feeling like I am shot out of a cannon.


2012-04-26 7:37 PM
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Hmmm... how are they going to fit a 56 mile bike leaving from Sand Hollow for the swim?

Interesting, according to google maps Sand Hollow to Veyo to downtown St. George is about 56.6 miles exactly. So no more climbing "The Wall" it seems.

 

Edit: New maps are all posted already my bad. http://www.atozion.com/ironmanstgeorge.php



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2012-04-26 7:42 PM
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I'd definitly be into doing the 70.3. It would be a great intro to a race season with a full later in the summer. I'm thinking of doing IMMOO next year with Vineman 70.3 in July....hmmm....SG could be just the thing, cuz I have zero interest in Wildflower.

It will be really interesting to see some split times posted next year by folks who have done IMSG.
2012-04-26 7:46 PM
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Rhenium - 2012-04-26 7:37 PM

Hmmm... how are they going to fit a 56 mile bike leaving from Sand Hollow for the swim?

Interesting, according to google maps Sand Hollow to Veyo to downtown St. George is about 56.6 miles exactly. So no more climbing "The Wall" it seems.



My guess is they will cut through Snow Canyon. We ride right past the turn which if you were to turn it takes you right up to the same hwy we come down to go back into town. There are really not much for climing in there, but definitly beautiful.
2012-04-26 7:49 PM
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You're correct.

Perhaps the day before there can be the "Veyo Wall Inaugural time trial" for old time's sake...

2012-04-27 7:35 AM
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bryancd - 2012-04-26 7:17 PM
3Aims - 2012-04-26 2:20 PM I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone.  
Ahh, the taper. Here's the bottom line. You should never feel very good during the taper. A proper taper is a balance between maintaining fitness through decreasing volume and intensity and allowing for a gradual recovery. It is impossible to build any meaningful fitness 10 days before the race. It is possible to do too much and never allow for recovery. Your workouts during this time will feel flat. Little phantom aches and pains will manifest, and you will generally feel like a big lazy blob. If you do, you are in perfect form. My goal is to wake up race morning feeling like I am shot out of a cannon.

This is good to hear, because i've definitely spent the past week or so with very minor soreness and feeling a bit tired.  I'm doing  a short sprint race tomorrow and was hoping that would perk me up a bit, but the priority I suppose should really be on taking it easy tomorrow instead.

edit: Although i have noticed that during my workouts this week, while not feeling particularly great, and without "actually" pushing hard, my hour-long runs and other bike rides have been covering a greater distance than I've covered previously this season, as well as faster.   So if my hour long run is 30 minutes out, 30 minutes back, I've been covering more distance in the 30 minutes out than I have previously, and my run back is like 27 minutes or so.  I even have to keep it in my head to stay at a moderate pace, but the numbers seem to accidentally pop up.



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2012-04-27 8:57 AM
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LittleCat - 2012-04-26 6:46 PM
Rhenium - 2012-04-26 7:37 PM

Hmmm... how are they going to fit a 56 mile bike leaving from Sand Hollow for the swim?

Interesting, according to google maps Sand Hollow to Veyo to downtown St. George is about 56.6 miles exactly. So no more climbing "The Wall" it seems.

My guess is they will cut through Snow Canyon. We ride right past the turn which if you were to turn it takes you right up to the same hwy we come down to go back into town. There are really not much for climing in there, but definitly beautiful.

No more Veyo. No more Wall. They are taking it up through Snow Canyon State park and then out on to Hwy 18 and down to St. G. The climbs inside Snow Canyon are long and brutal. I think far more difficult than anything on the current course. And then there is that run. This will be a great 70.3.

 

2012-04-27 9:20 AM
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PbMan - 2012-04-26 2:11 PM

My crew of 3 will be leaving from the bank parking lot at the finish line on Main St. at 9am for one sedate loop and a t-run on course. There will be a womens century ride staging from the same parking lot so if you can stomach seeing hundreds of women in tight spandex, please join us.

A women's century eh? That sounds dangerous. I could be distracted into a hundred mile ride which just isn't a part of my taper.

I may just have to take one for the team on this one though. Its a rough life, but someone's gotta do it...

Tongue out

2012-04-27 1:55 PM
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A friend just sent this poem about the taper. Cracks me up.

 

Taper Time Tantrum

'I cannot run again today,'

Said little Betty Ann Bengay.'

My quads are cramped.

My nerves are shot.

I think I might have purple snot.

My arch is pulled.

My glutes are sore.

My back it doesn’t bend no more.

My feet they have this awful smell.

I have another black toenail.

My elbow aches each time I pee.

And what’s that grinding in my knee?

I have a stress fracture.  In my skull.

My friends, they say, I’m full of bull.

I think I may have pulled a lung.

Eleven miles ain’t a REAL long run!

My legs they are no longer speedy.

My husband thinks I’m really needy.

If I run more will I get faster?

Will micro-tears just cause disaster?

I think that I should carbo-load.

Uh oh. No way. Where’s the commode?

My glycogen is kinda spent.

I know my shin, it needs a splint.

My singlet smells like something funky.

And don’t you think my butt looks chunky?

My IT band no longer bends.

When will this taper ever end?

My hamstrings hurt and--what?

What’s that you say?

You say today is...marathon day?

G'bye.  I’m going out to run.

 

2012-04-27 2:04 PM
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bryancd - 2012-04-26 5:17 PM

3Aims - 2012-04-26 2:20 PM

I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone.  


Ahh, the taper. Here's the bottom line. You should never feel very good during the taper. A proper taper is a balance between maintaining fitness through decreasing volume and intensity and allowing for a gradual recovery. It is impossible to build any meaningful fitness 10 days before the race. It is possible to do too much and never allow for recovery. Your workouts during this time will feel flat. Little phantom aches and pains will manifest, and you will generally feel like a big lazy blob. If you do, you are in perfect form. My goal is to wake up race morning feeling like I am shot out of a cannon.


Make that X 3 or 4! Started my taper on Monday, and am falling asleep at work today. Feel REALLY good on my lower intensity swims/rides/runs, but feel like a blob hours later. That and my brain is telling me I need the same calories I was taking weeks ago. Just got off the phone with my wetsuit manufacturer - gave me the go-ahead to trim the neo around my adam's apple, without affecting my warranty - yeah!!! No more feeling like I can't breath in the water. Wait, maybe that was the washing machine effect + my nerves Hope everyone is doing well...we're almost there!!!
2012-04-27 2:12 PM
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Hi all, long time listener, first time poster on this board. So it looks like the water will be in the mid-60s - what are people doing for wetsuits, full or john?

My inclination is a john given a race I just did with water at 63, and my full felt a bit much for that...I will have an insulated cap in case, but I'm thinking I would rather travel with just one wetsuit.

Cheers! Pat



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ppannett - 2012-04-27 1:12 PM

Hi all, long time listener, first time poster on this board. So it looks like the water will be in the mid-60s - what are people doing for wetsuits, full or john?

My inclination is a john given a race I just did with water at 63, and my full felt a bit much for that...I will have an insulated cap in case, but I'm thinking I would rather travel with just one wetsuit.

Cheers! Pat



FULL for me. The number of times I've said to myself, "man was that cold" outweigh the number of times I've said, "man it was hot enough to cook a thanksgiving turkey in my wetsuit." But that's just me...
2012-04-27 2:31 PM
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Always wear a full wet suit unless being cool is more important then going fast.
2012-04-27 3:14 PM
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Good food for thought...thanks!

 

bryancd - 2012-04-27 2:31 PM Always wear a full wet suit unless being cool is more important then going fast.

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bryancd - 2012-04-26 6:17 PM
3Aims - 2012-04-26 2:20 PM I hate tapers.  I think I've lost 29 weeks of speed and endurance in the last 4 days alone.  
Ahh, the taper. Here's the bottom line. You should never feel very good during the taper. A proper taper is a balance between maintaining fitness through decreasing volume and intensity and allowing for a gradual recovery. It is impossible to build any meaningful fitness 10 days before the race. It is possible to do too much and never allow for recovery. Your workouts during this time will feel flat. Little phantom aches and pains will manifest, and you will generally feel like a big lazy blob. If you do, you are in perfect form. My goal is to wake up race morning feeling like I am shot out of a cannon.

New aches are just pure mental torture.  My achilles gave me a 20 second scare on Wed. during a one hour run.  It's went away after 15-20 steps and has not resurfaced.  That's just plain cruel. 

 

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