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2012-06-29 10:03 AM

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Subject: Reality slowly warping

Not much to say here, other than hanging around here is thoroughly altering my sense of what consitutes a "significant" outlay of money for what is really a hobby. I'm pretty sure that not too long ago I would have been outraged at the thought of spending even $500-$600 for "just wheels? Not a whole bike, but hundreds of dollars for just wheels? Wheels that you won't even ride on all the time, but only for races and times of special celebration? That's ... stupid."

Now, however, I find myself reading the classifieds on here, and the discussions of "budget" wheelsets and such and I catch myself thinking that I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on [something] for [$$$ dollars]. All of this definitely has a slippery-slope feeling to it. Just an observation, nothing more. Please return to your regular triathlon-related activities.



2012-06-29 10:16 AM
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No kidding.  I got interested in triathlon because I got tired of just running all the time.  I already had both mountain and road bikes.  Little did I know I would want to take the plunge with a tri bike (just started looking).  Hard for me to justify three bikes but don't want to dump the MTB yet (use it for family rides on greenway mostly nowadays).  Can't see dumping roadie yet either.

Besides that, I'm quickly learning that race fees for triathlon are much higher than running only races (especially once you get to HIM distances).  I'm also forced to drive much more for swim training (pool, lake) than I did when I could step out the front door and go for a run.

2012-06-29 10:36 AM
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Freaky ain't it?  How about time spent on your hobby?
2012-06-29 10:44 AM
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I haven't succumbed to the pull yet.

Until I can legitimately tell myself I'm a upper-level competitor that is doing EVERYTHING right with his training, it's no use for me to try to buy a few seconds of speed.  I honestly feel like I haven't earned any of that stuff until I have essentially maxed out my physical potential, which I am no where near yet.

My initial outlay of like $1,200 for my road bike 5 years ago is about all I've spent beyond race fees, a used wetsuit, and 2 pairs of tri shorts.

2012-06-29 10:47 AM
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jkintn - 2012-06-29 10:16 AM

No kidding.  I got interested in triathlon because I got tired of just running all the time.  I already had both mountain and road bikes.  Little did I know I would want to take the plunge with a tri bike (just started looking).  Hard for me to justify three bikes but don't want to dump the MTB yet (use it for family rides on greenway mostly nowadays).  Can't see dumping roadie yet either.

Besides that, I'm quickly learning that race fees for triathlon are much higher than running only races (especially once you get to HIM distances).  I'm also forced to drive much more for swim training (pool, lake) than I did when I could step out the front door and go for a run.

I probably shouldn't mention that I currently have 11 bikes?

 

2012-06-29 10:52 AM
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duder5189 - 2012-06-29 10:44 AM

I haven't succumbed to the pull yet.

Until I can legitimately tell myself I'm a upper-level competitor that is doing EVERYTHING right with his training, it's no use for me to try to buy a few seconds of speed.  I honestly feel like I haven't earned any of that stuff until I have essentially maxed out my physical potential, which I am no where near yet.

My initial outlay of like $1,200 for my road bike 5 years ago is about all I've spent beyond race fees, a used wetsuit, and 2 pairs of tri shorts.

I want to add to this that, in full disclosure, I've never done anything longer than an olympic.  I understand that the pull to get some fancy stuff gets even stronger when you're racing for 6 or 12 hours, etc...comfort is as much part of the equation at that point as speed.  So, I'm not trying to look down upon anybody that's shelling out coin for this...have at it and enjoy yourself.



2012-06-29 10:53 AM
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I remember telling my wife last year, I would never spend thousands of dollars on a bike unless I was good enough to compete. Now I'm wishing I had a few thousand dollars to drop on a new bike and I'm no where near a competition level of performance. 

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2012-06-29 11:12 AM
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I've paid less for cars than I paid for my race wheels.

That doesn't even take in to account what I paid for the bike.

Yeah - If you do this long enough you start to warp.
2012-06-29 11:15 AM
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I got a really nice bike i didn't feel like i 'deserved' and a roadie set me straight by telling me 'none of us deserves it' and it was some good perspective ... it's a hobby pretty much for us all - if you want it and can afford it you can have it - you set the bar for yourself

The cost reality warp is one thing - the other is the actual feasibility of racing and training ... at first it all seems like a pipe dream ... then all of a sudden i am signed up for an ironman. Wait, when did that happen?? Only a few years ago i was panicking in my first try a tri's open water swim!! hahahaha.

2012-06-29 11:18 AM
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It's funny, when I'm in conversations with people who are ignorant of the costs of higher-end gear, and the subject of bike costs comes up, I always get the "you paid HOW much?!?" question. When I explain that this is my golf, or my bass fishing, they always give a knowing and contemplative nod... Especially the fishing and golf widows.
2012-06-29 11:23 AM
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It's relative.

"At each end of the economic scale, there exists a leisure class."

Taken from a global perspective our sport is extremely expensive. Taken from the perspective of a citizen of the tax-free Prinicipality of Monaco, our endeavors are the stuff of servants and serfs.

If you are Sir Richard Branson and you take a liking to Formula 1, yacht racing, extreme endurance flying or even space travel, well, those are your hobbies, your passions, your pursuits. They are entirely reasonable.

It's relative.

People on holiday in Monaco with their Gazelle helicopter onboard their yacht:

Young lads improvise a football game in Central Africa:



2012-06-29 11:25 AM
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briderdt - 2012-06-29 11:18 AM It's funny, when I'm in conversations with people who are ignorant of the costs of higher-end gear, and the subject of bike costs comes up, I always get the "you paid HOW much?!?" question. When I explain that this is my golf, or my bass fishing, they always give a knowing and contemplative nod... Especially the fishing and golf widows.

 

I use the fishing and golfing examples a lot also. I used to do both of those and those hobbies are the same as triathlons, the longer you are in it the more "wants" you have. The only difference is I'm in much better shape since I stopped doing those and started S/B/R!!

2012-06-29 11:26 AM
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How much does a bass boat cost? I am guessing many multiples of what I have spent on triathlon gear so far.
2012-06-29 11:27 AM
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Good news is, once you get everything, there is not much more to spend money on....

But seriously, of course I keep looking at new bikes and get bike envy and gear envy.  (I'm currently dreaming about the Shimano DI shifters)...  But I haven't bought anything gear related other than a few more clothes and tubes/Co2 for a couple years.

2012-06-29 11:28 AM
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Talk about reality warp--I used to think an Olympic triathlon was an almost otherwordly distance. Now I am convinced that I could drop in to a HIM almost any weekend and do pretty well. IM was a distance that only the fittest, craziest people did. Now I think of it as almost normal. Time spent doing almost anything changes your perspective pretty dramatically.

I don't even want to talk about the deposit I just put down on a bike. It is more than I have ever paid for an entire bike and this is just the deposit......
2012-06-29 11:29 AM
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Tom Demerly. - 2012-06-29 9:23 AM

It's relative.

"At each end of the economic scale, there exists a leisure class."

Taken from a global perspective our sport is extremely expensive. Taken from the perspective of a citizen of the tax-free Prinicipality of Monaco, our endeavors are the stuff of servants and serfs.

If you are Sir Richard Branson and you take a liking to Formula 1, yacht racing, extreme endurance flying or even space travel, well, those are your hobbies, your passions, your pursuits. They are entirely reasonable.

It's relative.

People on holiday in Monaco with their Gazelle helicopter onboard their yacht:

Young lads improvise a football game in Central Africa:

Fun is more about the people you are with a lot of times.  Both of these look fantastic to me...  But I would pick the bottom OR be up in the helecopter, not just looking at it.



2012-06-29 11:50 AM
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wbattaile - 2012-06-29 12:26 PM How much does a bass boat cost? I am guessing many multiples of what I have spent on triathlon gear so far.

i have always thought it's a little ridiculous how much some people spend to catch a few fish.  to each his own i guess...

2012-06-29 11:54 AM
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I use the same excuses - golf is very expensive and time consuming, as is fishing, water skiing, etc.  I typically workout early in the morning during the week and on weekends.  Plus tri lifestyle is more healthy and I try to teach my kids the importance of staying active.  

Now if I ever figure out swimming and can step up to HIM distances, then I will have to work harder to manage training time.

2012-06-29 12:00 PM
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I'm a relative cheapskate and work full time but have pretty much lost track of how much time/money I spend on my hobby. For perspective, though, I'm sure the $$ outlay isn't nearly as much as colleagues who ski and golf. And I once dated a guy whose hobby was high-altitude climbing. Those expeditions around the world make even multiple Ironmans look cheap, safe, and convenient.
2012-06-29 12:50 PM
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wannabefaster - 2012-06-29 12:28 PM Talk about reality warp--I used to think an Olympic triathlon was an almost otherwordly distance. Now I am convinced that I could drop in to a HIM almost any weekend and do pretty well. IM was a distance that only the fittest, craziest people did. Now I think of it as almost normal. Time spent doing almost anything changes your perspective pretty dramatically.

True dat

2012-06-29 12:55 PM
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THAT'S the truth...

Me and two friends would talk about Ironman races years ago and couldn't even grasp it.  We thought a 10k was hard/long...  And a marathon was daunting.  Then to run one AFTER a swim and 112 on the bike?  We almost couldn't fathom it.

We all went our seperate ways, but at a reunion, I was shocked to find out that one of them got into marathons - ran like 20+ of them.  The other got into adventure racing - the two to three day stuff.  And I have done marathons and 3 IM's.  We laughed at how we used to think it would barely be possible if we didn't see other do it on TV.



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2012-06-29 1:24 PM
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Try flying.  I'm single and multi-engine instrument rated.  Definitely not a cheap hobby.  Makes it easy to do weekend trips to the beach though.  And I volunteer for Angel Flight, which gives a good warm fuzzy feeling.

Or woodworking.  I have a few thousand dollars in my basement shop and none of it is high-end.

2012-06-29 1:47 PM
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Bass boats cost a lot........... I'm trying to sell the one I have so I can get another bike!
2012-06-29 3:43 PM
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Just like any hobby, the cash outlay depends on how deep you want to get into it.
2012-06-29 3:57 PM
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the jump the shark moment for me came when I started to get up at 5:00 a.m. to get a 3 hour run in. Um, why? I still don't know.
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