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2012-07-16 11:14 AM |
Expert 962 | Subject: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice "don't take the swim lightly" or some variant has been the warning to many a new guy looking to join the rank and file of the triathletes. I saw it and read it and summarily ignored it and paid dearly for it this past weekend in my first triathlon. And what a humbling experience it was. In my mind when reading the course description I would think "400 meters isn't that far and I'm in good cardio vascular shape, I will just muddle through the swim and knock out the bike and run." Foolish foolish me. Besides it was in a 50 meter pool with one way traffic in each lane. So what if I got passed, I'd likely catch back up on the bike. What an idiot I was. I actually did have plans to train with a friend in his pool jet to get me ready, but time after time the pool jet was down for maintenance so I didn't get in any appreciable pool work at all. What occured during the swim was a pride sucking, water swallowing, hacking, coughing, non-drowning event. I really can't call what I did swimming so I'm going with non drowning. I survived and managed to complete the swim, but at around twice the time I had figured it would take me, my apologies to those who had to swim around me. If you are new to this sport, don't be me. Listen to and more importantly heed the warnings of the veterans here. Don't underestimate the swim, cause it will kick your behind if you're not ready for it. I will not make the same mistake twice. My local YMCA can thank my recent humbling in the pool for my membership dues. A swim coach I go to church with has already volunteered to help me maximize my stroke efficiency. Yes there is a lot of pool time is in order for this land lover. I also shaved my 'Stache because every time I'd turn my head to take a breath the water trapped in it ran up into my nose. I felt like my moustache was water boarding me. You all were right.....I was wrong. I'm an idiot....the end. |
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2012-07-16 11:21 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Veteran 276 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice First off, I'm glad you are okay and welcome to the insanity! I must say this... dsand97 - 2012-07-16 11:14 AMI also shaved my 'Stache because every time I'd turn my head to take a breath the water trapped in it ran up into my nose. I felt like my moustache was water boarding me. ...made me nearly spit my drink all over the monitor! Too funny! |
2012-07-16 11:24 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Expert 962 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice although there were two very attractive ladies who couldn't take their eyes off me the entire time I was swimming.......of course they were the lifeguards, but hey I caught their eye. |
2012-07-16 11:28 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Veteran 660 Northern Illinois | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Excellent post and thanks for doing it. We have had a couple of threads over the past week or so that have gotten a little heated about the swim portion. It was good to see a perspective of someone who recently experienced it.
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2012-07-16 11:33 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Regular 261 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I was watching a re-brocast of the 2011 Kona race yesterday and my wife says "I know 2.4 miles is a long way, but by comparison to the length of the bike and run it doesn't seem so bad". Now she did preface that comment with "I know swimming long distances isn't easy, but". I know your distance was nowhere near that, but it is interesting how we can get lulled into seeing a swim as not so bad. That is until we nearly drown doing it!! When I got into this a few years ago a I thought I'd be okay when it was time to get into the pool to train seeing as I've alway been comfortable in the water. When I nearly swollowed a gallon of water on my first 50 yards and was so embarrased with I saw a nearly 70 y/o lady swimming lap after lap. Almost didn't come back!!! Sounds like a lesson was learned and I'm sure we'll hear much better news after your next race!! BTW you may have to change your blog name after the shaving, just wouldn't represent you anymore!! |
2012-07-16 11:36 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Veteran 186 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Glad you're ok, even if the stache isn't. And this wasn't even open water. Even folks who've done this for years can forget your advice. Good on you for doing something to fix the problem. -J |
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2012-07-16 11:47 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I was gonna ask if you were the same dsand97 'cause I was wondering what happened to the 'stache ... Thank you for your honesty and humbleness. Work on the swim and you can indeed do well (not just survive ... kinda), AND have your flying fuzz back. This guy swam a 2:00 for a 10K ... that was in difficult conditions so it was very slow for him! (00001.Pornstache (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- 00001.Pornstache (Small).jpg (47KB - 3 downloads) |
2012-07-16 11:50 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
21 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice dsand97 - 2012-07-16 12:14 PM I also shaved my 'Stache because every time I'd turn my head to take a breath the water trapped in it ran up into my nose. I felt like my moustache was water boarding me. I am too attached to my beard/stache. I had the same issue when I started swimming. I have had to exhale a little through my nose to prevent this from happening. Im still pretty slow so im wondering if in the future I will resort to a nose plug or something. |
2012-07-16 11:56 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Master 2426 Central Indiana | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Great post! Advice also applies to BOP swimmers who survive an IM then take 6mo away from the water before humbling themselves in local OWS sprint tri. (Do NOT ask me how I know that ). |
2012-07-16 12:01 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Member 49 Minneapolis | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Thanks for the post. I'm still training for my first tri (sprint) and thought the same thing about the swim. "500 yards? That's not so bad. I can do that." Until I tried to swim for the first pool training session. Coughing, spluttering, flailing about. I took some lessons and have been swimming 3-4x/week since. And seriously, it kicks my butt. I've been able to work up to 500 yards in the pool, but resting after each lap or length. Those training plans that say "swim 500 yards warm up" crack me up. I'm just not there yet. Did my first OWS last week; 600 yards. I was feeling pretty optimistic about it also since the pool had been going fairly well. Then I started swimming. My heart was racing, my form went to pieces, yada yada. It was a very good thing someone was swimming with me the whole way. I did it with a combo platter of strokes, some real, some made up. But no, it's not easy. I don't flail anymore, but swimming is way harder than the average person thinks. |
2012-07-16 12:15 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Master 1460 Burlington, Vermont | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Just from reading this, I know you'll do what you need to do to be prepared for your next swim event. So I don't even have to comment on that. But I will mourn your 'stache with you. I grow a handlebar often and have always had to shave it after some long run during July. I'll be out there and it just gets so annoying it the extreme heat that it comes off immediately when I get home. And I always regret it. Instantly. So I was going to grow it out this winter, but I was in the midst of my swim focus and just couldn't handle it for the reasons you mentioned. Sadly, I think it'll be a long time before I grow this bad boy again. Sigh. |
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2012-07-16 12:29 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Extreme Veteran 930 Fort Worth, TX | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I go all in with a full beard these days. You learn the technique to swim, then you learn the technique to swimming with facial hair. It's all technique. Shaved legs and a beard - I scare little children and fascinate older people. |
2012-07-16 2:55 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Extreme Veteran 534 Herriman, Utah | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I had the exact experience for my first sprint Tri. This was before I knew about BT.com and i didnt get any advice. I too was in good cardio shape and thought that it would carry over to the swim. I was very very wrong but doggy paddled through most of it. That is a constant reminder every time I don't want to go to the pool. Thanks for sharing. |
2012-07-16 3:08 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Veteran 444 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I volunteered at a sprint tri this past weekend and was on kayak duty and I must say... please, please, please, PLEASE don't go into a tri without some swim experience and most importantly, open water swim experience. Yes, being in good shape cardio wise is a plus, but if you don't have good form to keep your body in a position in the water where you can breath easily, or if you panic when you get in dark, murky water with other people splashing around you, cardio fitness goes out the door. I had people hanging on my kayak, and escorted at least 3 people to the shore because they weren't sure they could make it. They all did, but I kept the kayak 2 feet or less from them. There were others who just got in the boat and gave up. I have competed in several tris, including this exact one last year, and I never realized the amount of carnage that goes on in such as small event with a time trial start. Yes, I've been hit with a hand or halfway kicked or had someone swim perpendicular to me and right into me, but to be on top of the water seeing it all go on is sobering. One woman had her goggles and cap knocked off and couldn't tread water long enough to get them back on, she was calling for help. It was her first tri, and she was one of the people I followed to the shore. I saw people swimming who never put their face in the water, people backstroking into others, people backstroking WAY off course until we redirected them, sidestroking, people with no goggles, breast stroking, doggy paddling, everything. I was on edge the entire time. |
2012-07-16 3:49 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Pro 5169 Burbs | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Great post and glad your tri was in a pool and not in OW ... could have been a lot worse. |
2012-07-16 3:57 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice You've enlightened me. I had no idea that people would even consider entering a Tri without swim training. for me... it's my favorite leg of the tri. Especially if the water is clear, fresh, between 66-70 (with wetsuit), and I've got someone just a little faster than me that I can draft. Even better if they have an easy kick and are a good sighter. |
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2012-07-16 4:06 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Regular 196 Eldorado, Texas | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice nO NOT the stache!!!!!! The sacrifices that are made. Luckily when I started this up last year I had a few people around me that had done it before and as a rarity I took advice. I practiced the swim. My first tri was OWS and luckily it didn't bother me. Actually I loved the heck out of the blender. OWS is a whole other animal. Glad you survived and I hope to make it back to the motherland next year for the 2nd annual. |
2012-07-16 4:40 PM in reply to: #4313700 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I do a yearly tri that is in a 50 meter pool that is 4 foot deep from end to end......many people walk the entire "swim"......craziest thing I've ever seen in triathlon. |
2012-07-16 5:35 PM in reply to: #4314591 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Left Brain - 2012-07-16 4:40 PM I do a yearly tri that is in a 50 meter pool that is 4 foot deep from end to end......many people walk the entire "swim"......craziest thing I've ever seen in triathlon. We have a RD in town that tells people if they are in the top 20, and he sees them walking, backstroking, etc. he will pull them from the water and make them go to the back. I'm pretty sure if he saw someone walk the entire swim, they'd get pulled out and DQ'ed. He's kind of hardcore like that. Which I appreciate it. Nothing ticks me off more is someone who can't swim in the top 20. |
2012-07-16 7:37 PM in reply to: #4314687 |
Extreme Veteran 668 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Thanks for the stories! I spit my water out a few times reading some of these. Yes, it's really easy to get caught up in the "X" distance is that far until we do it! I did a 1 mile swim race a few weeks ago, the longest one I've done to date and about 2/3rs of the way through I was thinking "Damn! This really is far!" I was calm and doing ok although not blazing fast (43 min ) but felt good when I finished. KSH - 2012-07-16 5:35 PM Left Brain - 2012-07-16 4:40 PM We have a RD in town that tells people if they are in the top 20, and he sees them walking, backstroking, etc. he will pull them from the water and make them go to the back. I'm pretty sure if he saw someone walk the entire swim, they'd get pulled out and DQ'ed. He's kind of hardcore like that. Which I appreciate it. Nothing ticks me off more is someone who can't swim in the top 20. I do a yearly tri that is in a 50 meter pool that is 4 foot deep from end to end......many people walk the entire "swim"......craziest thing I've ever seen in triathlon. I thought about doing a tri a few hours away from me back in June until I found footage of people WITH WETSUITS walking in the 4 foot deep man made lake! I thought "The last thing I want is to get passed by someone walking the swim! Needless to say, I didn't do that event. LOL! |
2012-07-16 10:55 PM in reply to: #4313740 |
Regular 198 Costa Mesa | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice dsand97 - 2012-07-16 9:24 AM although there were two very attractive ladies who couldn't take their eyes off me the entire time I was swimming.......of course they were the lifeguards, but hey I caught their eye. LOL, it was the same for me in my first open water swim race XD Except it was three hot shirtless guys... with orange flotation devices and a bitchin' jet ski XD |
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2012-07-16 11:02 PM in reply to: #4314687 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice KSH - 2012-07-16 5:35 PM Left Brain - 2012-07-16 4:40 PM We have a RD in town that tells people if they are in the top 20, and he sees them walking, backstroking, etc. he will pull them from the water and make them go to the back. I'm pretty sure if he saw someone walk the entire swim, they'd get pulled out and DQ'ed. He's kind of hardcore like that. Which I appreciate it. Nothing ticks me off more is someone who can't swim in the top 20. I do a yearly tri that is in a 50 meter pool that is 4 foot deep from end to end......many people walk the entire "swim"......craziest thing I've ever seen in triathlon. I guess there was a day it bothered me....but not anymore. I've seen plenty of people walk their bikes and walk the run...might as well walk the swim. And....what on earth could be wrong with backstroking? I know some kids who would destroy most of a triathlon field backstroking the entire swim. Edited by Left Brain 2012-07-16 11:04 PM |
2012-07-17 12:00 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Extreme Veteran 1112 Las Vegas | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice I agree with the backstroke as OK, for that was my competitive stroke all through HS, college, and even now into the Senior Olympics. I am much more comfortable and much faster as well. I can sight, and best of all, breath when ever I want, although there is a pattern. I usually start out freestyle because of the crowd, but as it thins out I always change over to my preferred stroke. |
2012-07-17 12:03 AM in reply to: #4313700 |
Veteran 1384 Panama City, FL | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice Really do the work before open water swim races. Congrats though on finishing! |
2012-07-17 12:07 AM in reply to: #4315179 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: I heard it on here a thousand time and a thousand times I ignored the advice taylorz13 - 2012-07-17 12:03 AM Really do the work before open water swim races. Congrats though on finishing! ^^^ You could die!!! |
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