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2012-08-20 11:34 AM

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Subject: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

A Kansas Congressman apologized for skinny dipping on a fact-finding trip last year. 
Is this a case someone just having a little fun, or an embarrassment to his constituents? What say COJ.



2012-08-20 11:36 AM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

my congressman does far more upsetting things than skinny dip....

ok, serious answer.  is it illegal or funded by taxpayers somehow?  then i take issue with it, as i would with any other infraction.  i expect an elected official to not be held to some imaginary higher standard, but to at least obey our laws.  but that particular act?  meh.  it actually makes me giggle a little...



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2012-08-20 11:37 AM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
I think the issue was more that this was on tax payer's dime.
2012-08-20 11:40 AM
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TriToy - 2012-08-20 11:37 AM I think the issue was more that this was on tax payer's dime.

"The trip, said to have been open only to those 18 and over, was sponsored by the American Israel Education Foundation"
"The foundation, a charity, says its mission is to provide grants for educational programs and conferences and to "help educate political leaders and influentials about the importance of the U.S.-Israel relationship through first-hand experiences in Israel."

Maybe a dumb question, but if it was sponsored by this charity organization, was it in fact on the tax payers dime?

 
2012-08-20 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

Lee Terry is my congressmen, I would rather not think of him skinny dipping at all... haha

2012-08-20 11:44 AM
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Non-Story. IMO.



2012-08-20 11:49 AM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
lisac957 - 2012-08-20 12:40 PM

TriToy - 2012-08-20 11:37 AM I think the issue was more that this was on tax payer's dime.

"The trip, said to have been open only to those 18 and over, was sponsored by the American Israel Education Foundation"
"The foundation, a charity, says its mission is to provide grants for educational programs and conferences and to "help educate political leaders and influentials about the importance of the U.S.-Israel relationship through first-hand experiences in Israel."

Maybe a dumb question, but if it was sponsored by this charity organization, was it in fact on the tax payers dime?

 

 

news this morning suggested it was - but a charity organization is tax exempt so yes still affects

2012-08-20 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

Could care less.

2012-08-20 12:04 PM
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running2far - 2012-08-20 12:44 PM Non-Story. IMO.

x2.

2012-08-20 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
Unless there were underage strippers and cocaine involved...I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
2012-08-20 1:00 PM
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2012-08-20 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

I don't see what the fuss is either but the comments online seem to be pretty one-sided around here. There were 20 other people involved, and his wife was even there. I'm not even sure what there is to "investigate"?

It didn't help that he was a "no-show" today for some event. If it were me, I'd show up at the event with this shirt on:

 



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2012-08-20 1:05 PM
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I don't know how I feel about this kind of thing in general...

I don't care if someone wants to do drugs, sex parties, hookers, skinny dip...  It's their life.

HOWEVER, I worry when people in the public eye does these things.  Not that they should live to a higher standard, BUT, I worry about anyone that is so scrutinized making decisions like that. 

For example, I just don't get how athletes that could make MILLIONS throw it all away smoking pot or bringing a gun to a club... 

Or politions sending Iphone pics of their penis...  For your average guy, fine.  They don't have so much to lose.  But those in the public eye?  Save if for AFTER you are out of the office or retired.  I think the more you have to lose, the more you need to be careful of what you do and it concerns me MORE about the lack of judgment, rather than the act itself, if that makes sense.

2012-08-20 1:14 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

In the grand scheme of things I think, in general, in my head I say there are so many bigger things to worry about. But....

I do find it interesting that many folks have the "hey its your life" attitude.  I for one DO think that an elected official SHOULD be held to a higher standard.  Even these stupid little things are a reflection on all of us.  He did get elected to represent his congressional district, and he was on the vacation (oops I mean educational mission) in his elected capacity.

2012-08-20 1:22 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
I wonder if he claimed `shrinkage' upon exiting the water.
2012-08-20 2:04 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

People use skinny-dipping in two ways:

 A - A euphemism for something inappropriate. Were there hookers and blow?

 B - Nonsexual swimming and/or sunbathing in a way that does not offend many in foreign countries, country swimming holes, or member of The Naturist Society or AANR.

 

I would give a token donation to anybody in category B and did not back-pedal.

 

Of course, look at my past 5k's and beaches on my running log to see my bias.

 



2012-08-20 2:08 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

I have no problem with it.

 

Now if someone was cited for doing it last summer... I could understand how they would take exception.

2012-08-20 2:10 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
eabeam - 2012-08-20 3:04 PM

People use skinny-dipping in two ways:

 A - A euphemism for something inappropriate. Were there hookers and blow?

 B - Nonsexual swimming and/or sunbathing in a way that does not offend many in foreign countries, country swimming holes, or member of The Naturist Society or AANR.

 

I would give a token donation to anybody in category B and did not back-pedal.

 

Of course, look at my past 5k's and beaches on my running log to see my bias.

 

^x2  Although, skinnydipping as part of some organized charity event seems just a little odd.

2012-08-20 2:10 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
eabeam - 2012-08-20 3:04 PM

A - A euphemism for something inappropriate. Were there hookers and blow?

Illegal doesn't necessarily mean inappropriate.

 

 

2012-08-20 2:17 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
Sous - 2012-08-20 2:14 PM

In the grand scheme of things I think, in general, in my head I say there are so many bigger things to worry about. But....

I do find it interesting that many folks have the "hey its your life" attitude.  I for one DO think that an elected official SHOULD be held to a higher standard.  Even these stupid little things are a reflection on all of us.  He did get elected to represent his congressional district, and he was on the vacation (oops I mean educational mission) in his elected capacity.

who determines what that standard is?  where is the line between ok behavior and bad?  i figured the law is a clear line.  abusing power or money given to you as an elected is a line.  skinny dipping?  doesn't really cross either of those.

2012-08-20 2:24 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
lisac957 - 2012-08-20 1:04 PM

I don't see what the fuss is either but the comments online seem to be pretty one-sided around here. There were 20 other people involved, and his wife was even there. I'm not even sure what there is to "investigate"?



We're conditioned now to where we automatically get outraged about everything. Twenty years ago, this wouldn't even have been news.



2012-08-20 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
Eh, so what?

As an elected official, it does show a lack of judgment, though. It may not be fair, but when you are in the public eye you need to be a little more cautious of you actions.
2012-08-20 2:30 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

running2far - 2012-08-20 12:44 PM Non-Story. IMO.

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2012-08-20 2:35 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?
mehaner - 2012-08-20 2:17 PM
Sous - 2012-08-20 2:14 PM

In the grand scheme of things I think, in general, in my head I say there are so many bigger things to worry about. But....

I do find it interesting that many folks have the "hey its your life" attitude.  I for one DO think that an elected official SHOULD be held to a higher standard.  Even these stupid little things are a reflection on all of us.  He did get elected to represent his congressional district, and he was on the vacation (oops I mean educational mission) in his elected capacity.

who determines what that standard is?  where is the line between ok behavior and bad?  i figured the law is a clear line.  abusing power or money given to you as an elected is a line.  skinny dipping?  doesn't really cross either of those.

I had this same question and thought process.

2012-08-20 2:40 PM
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Subject: RE: WWCOJ think of their congressman skinny dipping?

Depends. Is my Congressional rep hot?

As it turns out, she is a fine looking woman and I'd have no problems with her skinny dipping. I think I'd prefer it be her daughter, but I'm really okay with it.

Janice Hahn, California District 36

As for the Congressman in question, he is exactly my age and DEFINITELY hot, so I think I'd encourage it!

There was some (very minor) brouhaha a few years back about one of the Canadian Prime Minister Candidates, Kim something or other (definitely hot, and a redhead too if I recall), because there was a picture floating around of her with one breast bared. We're talking top political post material here, and the Canucks were fairly laid back about it.

As we should be ... as I am.

Is it illegal to swim naked in the Sea of Galilee? If so, that's a different matter. As a lawmaker, he should uphold the law in his own country, and definitely so in other people's countries, especially if he's specifically there as an official (if not in official capacity) to improve relations between them.

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