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2013-04-21 11:58 AM

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Subject: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

I'm curious...   At what, if any, amount of wind do you decide to miss or cut back a bike workout?  

Today was a beyond frustrating day for me.  Winds at 17-18 with 25+ mph gusts.  I made it 3 1/2 hours before I couldn't take it anymore.  I finished most of my workout on the trainer.  I feel like I cheated and am not happy with myself.  



2013-04-21 12:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
We had Winds 22 gusting to 30 planned on a 42M then run but switched to the 35M and run. You finished your training so dont fuss about it just keep working. If you parked the bike and sat on the couch then you should be upset...I would add it depends at what point in training you are. I will gut it out later in my training but this early 21 weeks out not a chance...

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2013-04-21 12:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
It kinds of depends... steady, high wind is easier to deal with than gusty conditions. It also depends on the terrain. I have a few routes I can rely on even in the windiest conditions, because of tree cover, etc. Try to avoid open terrain as much as possible..

I do see that you're from FL, so avoiding open terrain, pretty much means sticking to the trainer...
2013-04-21 12:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
It depends... Is it blowing in the direction of a Strava KOM?
2013-04-21 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

sounds like you did good.

it's tough riding in wind like that, 3-1/2 hrs is a lot.

also there's the safety factor riding on the roads. so...good job!

2013-04-21 12:22 PM
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2013-04-21 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
BLT1115 - 2013-04-21 11:58 AM

I'm curious...   At what, if any, amount of wind do you decide to miss or cut back a bike workout?  

Today was a beyond frustrating day for me.  Winds at 17-18 with 25+ mph gusts.  I made it 3 1/2 hours before I couldn't take it anymore.  I finished most of my workout on the trainer.  I feel like I cheated and am not happy with myself.  

You shouldn't spend one more second feeling bad about that workout. 

I've voluntarily gone out in >20mph in the past, but I don't anymore.  Happy to switch up and do a run or swim instead and pick up the ride on a less windy day.  I think as long as you feel like you can handle those conditions if they happen to be like that for your race, you don't need to punish yourself.

2013-04-21 1:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
You never know when race days will be windy, so I don't really let wind get in the way of my training. Yesterday was 20+ with gusts over 30, and I got in a long ride. There were definitely a few times where I got blown around a little bit, but the roads I ride on are quite rural and cars in my area generally give bikers a nice wide berth. Now, if we were talking sustained winds of 35-40+ I'd probably be on the trainer, as it simply wouldn't be safe.
2013-04-21 2:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
60-70 km/h depending on base temp.
2013-04-21 2:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

Race day might be windy and 50% of the field would not have bothered to train in the wind so you immediately have an advantage over them as you know you can handle it.

We've had similar winds lately and i've been disappointed afterwards as my HR stats showed I wasn't putting the effort in but I tell you one thing - my next ride in better conditions was even more enjoyable than usual as I appreciated it more. 

So look forward to that!

2013-04-21 2:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

I once did a charity century ride in 35mph sustained, gusts to 50mph.
I decided that day I wouldn't ever complain about the wind again.

Getting ready to head out for a 3.5 hour ride in 24mph sustained winds. It will be awesome when I'm finished! Cool 



2013-04-21 2:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
I"m in Kansas so sustained winds at 17-18 is not fun but typical on a "windy" day.  Last weekend we rode in 20-25 sustained winds gusting above 30.  The crosswinds suck if there's cars on the road as you have to work hard to hold a line and not be blown into traffic.  I equate the time riding into the wind as sort of a hill workout.  It sure if fun with that wind at your back though.  I hit 44 mph on a fairly flat road last week.  On windy days you might choose to do a shorter distance and try to estimate the total time riding when you've got a lot of headwind to deal with.
2013-04-21 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
When I lived in Kansas, steady winds of 25 mph were common.
Here in TX that wind is not as common but still happens.
I'm used to riding in wind and use that to my advantage.
My most rewarding race was in very windy and rainy conditions. So many people let it get in their head and I kept the hammer down. Years of riding in wind and rain paid off in a podium spot in a 1/2 IM.
2013-04-21 4:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
I don't know.. Today we did 60 miles in freezing temps and strong headwinds..
I guess, unless its hurricane force, we ride...
2013-04-21 4:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
I don't have particular speeds. Just go by when it doesn't feel safe for what I want to do that day.
2013-04-21 5:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

Wind...now that's a 4-letter word.  Wind is bad enough by itself, but coupled with cold temps that combo is probably the bane of my existence.  

My only 2 bits of advice are:

1:  If you don't feel safe in it, don't ride in it.

and 

2:  Whenever possible, ride into the wind to start.  Finishing with a headwind just plain sucks!

btw, you went for a 3 1/2 hour bike ride!  You didn't cheat yourself and you should be proud of yourself!



2013-04-21 9:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
I'm in KS too - if I'm doing a ride that day - I'll purposely go out into the wind, only to enjoy the ride back with it. I. HATE. WIND. though - it blows!
2013-04-21 10:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

i had the "pleasure" of visiting Kansas a few times in the past year for up to a month at a time each visit.  being in Kansas is drawing the line for riding.  

seriously though, just get out there and ride unless you feel it is unsafe to do so.  remember: when you aren't getting your ride in, someone you will be competing against is.

2013-04-21 10:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

OP--you did good.

Me, I love the high head winds and bright hot sun and 4-5ft seas.  Why, because it is harder on my competition.Laughing

IMO--A lot of triathlon and high physical effort is psychological.  Learn to excell in adverse weather conditions and you will be less stressed come race day.  I look forward to adverse conditions because I know how to use it to my advantage.

A cycling trick I learned a long time ago about riding into high wind is to stay as low and out of the wind as much as possible and focus on my cycling techique. Focus on your heart rate, not your ground speed. Set your bike up so that you are comfortable for hours in the most aerodynamic position possible.

Hope this helps

 

2013-04-21 11:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

I'd draw the line at gusts over 50 mph.

But...as mentioned before, if it's in the direction of a Strava KOM...I'd take the bike out.  You can tell when people do that...average over 30 mph on a segment where 21-22 mph is usually an all out effort.



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2013-04-22 1:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

I used to skip it if winds were over 10 MPH (and do the trainer, I wouldn't skip the workout), deeming it unsafe.  I just did a tri where most of the ride had 15-20 MPH winds and 25 gusts, and it wasn't that bad!!  So now I will probably go out there in ANY conditions and just come back if unsafe.  It was hard, but not unsafe, and I don't care about difficulty, just safety.  My coach does say that depending on the strength of the wind, if you're gonna do 50 miles and it usually takes you four hours to go 50 miles, and because of wind it takes you those four hours to do 30 miles, just go for the time and stop there.  So with strong wind just ride for time what the distance usually takes you.



2013-04-22 8:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?

I think wind makes you tough!  Last year was my first year in the sport and riding and so forth.  I would skip days when it was really windy because I didn't want to deal with the wind.  This year though I have yet to cancel a bike workout outside because of wind.  Save for this past weekend all my 2-3 hour rides the past weekends were 18+mph winds out of the NNW/West with gusts over 30 on some days.  I dealt with it.  I found it a lot harder to watch and keep myself in zone 2 though when riding into the headwind but I think I can say that I did a good job of it.

My thoughts on it is that "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."  Like a few others have stated though if you don't feel safe riding in it then by all means don't go out.  Somewhere along the line though you will need that training in the wind to feel comfy in a race.  I think over half my races last year were all 7-15mph+ winds it seemed.

2013-04-22 8:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
BLT1115 - 2013-04-21 12:58 PM

I'm curious...   At what, if any, amount of wind do you decide to miss or cut back a bike workout?  

Today was a beyond frustrating day for me.  Winds at 17-18 with 25+ mph gusts.  I made it 3 1/2 hours before I couldn't take it anymore.  I finished most of my workout on the trainer.  I feel like I cheated and am not happy with myself.  

NE FL? This thread makes me feel like a baby. If you're riding in this Nor'Easter we're getting hit with I definitely salute you! It's practically a tropical storm out here. The wind along the beach made my longer run tough yesterday. Living at the beach if I don't get out early/go on a long ride, I get hit with a headwind the whole way back. The gusty wind+rain bands=me on the trainer today

2013-04-22 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
rjrankin83 - 2013-04-22 9:30 AM
BLT1115 - 2013-04-21 12:58 PM

I'm curious...   At what, if any, amount of wind do you decide to miss or cut back a bike workout?  

Today was a beyond frustrating day for me.  Winds at 17-18 with 25+ mph gusts.  I made it 3 1/2 hours before I couldn't take it anymore.  I finished most of my workout on the trainer.  I feel like I cheated and am not happy with myself.  

NE FL? This thread makes me feel like a baby. If you're riding in this Nor'Easter we're getting hit with I definitely salute you! It's practically a tropical storm out here. The wind along the beach made my longer run tough yesterday. Living at the beach if I don't get out early/go on a long ride, I get hit with a headwind the whole way back. The gusty wind+rain bands=me on the trainer today

Yes, NE Florida.  What the heck is up with this weather!!!???  I'm ready for some stagnant heat and humidity already!  

2013-04-22 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Where do you draw the line for riding in the wind?
I agree with what most of you said that training in wind is good for strength, etc. but it is just so darn frustrating!!!  But, that's in part why I feel like I cheated by relenting to the trainer.  If strong wind happens in a race, I'm just gonna have to deal with it.  Best I get over it during training!  I was curious at what point it becomes too much or too unsafe.  I felt a little unsteady by the gusts but luckily I was riding in an area with generous bike lanes.  
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