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Subject: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?
Looking at the Wireless model. I do not see anything that connects to the trainer, so how does it calculate power, and why does it not work off of the trainer?


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Link to what you are talking about?

Edit - this?

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2012/12/kinetic-inride-bluetooth-smart-power-meter-accessory-in-depth-review.html



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2013-11-09 7:43 AM
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Thanks
I was looking at the Wireless Meter with Ant+. THe review you posted is for the InRide Bluetooth meter. Any thoughts from folks on which to choose?
2013-11-09 10:26 AM
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Subject: RE: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?

From what I can tell, Kurt Kinetic is just reporting Virtual Power (like TrainerRoad).  

If you already own a Garmin Ant stick, Heart Rate Strap, and GSC10 Speed/Cadence sensor then TrainerRoad is a way better value at $9.95/month.  

2013-11-09 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?

I use a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine and the Kinetic Inride (and very happy with both) but I had never heard of this wireless power meter until you mentioned it.

Doing a little research, it seems to be a head unit that estimates your power output based on your speed - specifically, like this:

"Watts reading is calibrated on the following mathematical equation: P = (5.244820) * S + (0.01968) * S3 where S=speed and P=power"

So it sounds like it's doing something similar to the TrainerRoad software - calculating "virtual power".

Personally, I wouldn't bother with this device. Get TrainerRoad instead - $10 a month and you get this same functionality and a *lot* more. Plus if you want a head unit, TrainerRoad will broadcast to any ANT+ device like the Garmin you probably already have.

2013-11-09 10:40 AM
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Subject: RE: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?

Originally posted by smallard I use a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine and the Kinetic Inride (and very happy with both) but I had never heard of this wireless power meter until you mentioned it. Doing a little research, it seems to be a head unit that estimates your power output based on your speed - specifically, like this: "Watts reading is calibrated on the following mathematical equation: P = (5.244820) * S + (0.01968) * S3 where S=speed and P=power" So it sounds like it's doing something similar to the TrainerRoad software - calculating "virtual power". Personally, I wouldn't bother with this device. Get TrainerRoad instead - $10 a month and you get this same functionality and a *lot* more. Plus if you want a head unit, TrainerRoad will broadcast to any ANT+ device like the Garmin you probably already have.

Do you recommend just straight up TrainerRoad over the Inride?



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Originally posted by smallard


I use a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine and the Kinetic Inride (and very happy with both) but I had never heard of this wireless power meter until you mentioned it.

Doing a little research, it seems to be a head unit that estimates your power output based on your speed - specifically, like this:

"Watts reading is calibrated on the following mathematical equation: P = (5.244820) * S + (0.01968) * S3 where S=speed and P=power"

So it sounds like it's doing something similar to the TrainerRoad software - calculating "virtual power".

Personally, I wouldn't bother with this device. Get TrainerRoad instead - $10 a month and you get this same functionality and a *lot* more. Plus if you want a head unit, TrainerRoad will broadcast to any ANT+ device like the Garmin you probably already have.




So, if I have a Bontrager Node2 and a Garmin 310xt, a Garmin USB Ant+ stick and a HR Strap, I should be set to use TrainerRoad.
2013-11-09 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?
If you have an Ant+ Speed sensor for the Node2 then you are set.

Just a warning, Virtual Power is like a gateway drug. You'll probably end up buying a real power meter by next spring so you can train with power when you aren't on the trainer.
2013-11-09 1:16 PM
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Subject: RE: How does the Kurt Kinetic Power Meter work?
I used the wired KK power computer last winter and have been using trainerroad so far this year. Trainerroad is hands down the better way to go.
2013-11-12 10:25 AM
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Yep, happened to me. Ended up getting a power meter from using Trainer Road. Of course not a necessity, but once you get used to seeing the power number it really makes since in training and racing. Also, for $10 a month Trainer Road is one of the best investments you can make.
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