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2015-07-21 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

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On a more somber but honored note... DS2 was just ordered to place the base flag at half mast.

Thank him. And thank you as well.

Thank you.

DS1 and I stopped for lunch yestderday at a spot close to the army base in Colorado Springs.  There was a (very) young Specialist in line after us so I bought his lunch and thanked him for his service. Generally when I do that I let them know my son is also serving in hopes that they will feel less uncomfortable (as they all do) about being thanked.  I told DS1 that although they all get a bit embarrassed when people thank them for their service I think it also helps them realize that people really do appreciate them and their willingness to sign that blank check.  One Navy mom once said that when people are thanking a soldier/marine/sailor, they are actually thanking all of them. I agree.



2015-07-22 8:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)
Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by rrrunner

On a more somber but honored note... DS2 was just ordered to place the base flag at half mast.

Thank him. And thank you as well.

Thank you.

DS1 and I stopped for lunch yestderday at a spot close to the army base in Colorado Springs.  There was a (very) young Specialist in line after us so I bought his lunch and thanked him for his service. Generally when I do that I let them know my son is also serving in hopes that they will feel less uncomfortable (as they all do) about being thanked.  I told DS1 that although they all get a bit embarrassed when people thank them for their service I think it also helps them realize that people really do appreciate them and their willingness to sign that blank check.  One Navy mom once said that when people are thanking a soldier/marine/sailor, they are actually thanking all of them. I agree.


so true TJ. I think thanking them and their families too. So thank you for allowing your son to make the choice to join. Sometimes I wish my parents had stopped my brothers making that choice.
2015-07-22 11:07 AM
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A great article about  my teammate and his quest for another win at Nationals this weekend: Joe 

And the women's preview womens it is going to be so great to watch and learn from these women!

2015-07-22 12:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

2015-07-22 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

2015-07-22 12:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.



2015-07-22 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

2015-07-22 12:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

It'll feel cold when you first get in, but should be ok once you've been moving a few minutes. Arms might have a slightly deadened feeling later in the swim, but should still be able to move well.

Once your head & face get wet and used to the feeling everything else tends to come around well enough.

2015-07-22 12:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

You swim in a swamp!

2015-07-22 1:32 PM
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Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

You swim in a swamp!

too true!

2015-07-22 1:43 PM
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You guys would die if you saw my logistics for this weekend.

Also, if you saw how I was packing. I am 1 part scared of them losing my bags and one part cheap so I generally bring carry-on only. I am camping all weekend in bend. I must say, after tent, speeping bag/pad, stove there's not much room for anything else. Like, say, running attire.



2015-07-22 1:46 PM
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You guys would die if you saw my logistics for this weekend.

Also, if you saw how I was packing. I am 1 part scared of them losing my bags and one part cheap so I generally bring carry-on only. I am camping all weekend in bend. I must say, after tent, speeping bag/pad, stove there's not much room for anything else. Like, say, running attire.

That takes running nekkid to a whole new level...

2015-07-22 2:04 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

You'll be fine in the sleeveless suit.  It'll be chilly at first but you'll be fine.

2015-07-22 2:22 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

A great article about  my teammate and his quest for another win at Nationals this weekend: Joe 

And the women's preview womens it is going to be so great to watch and learn from these women!

Huh, I didn't realize Joe is from CoSpgs. I figured he lived on the left coast. Cool for him. It would be awesome to have him represent the US in Wales.

I wish they would televise these races.

2015-07-22 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

2015-07-22 2:59 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

That's crazy! It's like swimming in a bath tub!

Here's to you staying warm this weekend!!! I guess you won't have to worry about being too warm.



2015-07-22 3:11 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

A great article about  my teammate and his quest for another win at Nationals this weekend: Joe 

And the women's preview womens it is going to be so great to watch and learn from these women!

Huh, I didn't realize Joe is from CoSpgs. I figured he lived on the left coast. Cool for him. It would be awesome to have him represent the US in Wales.

I wish they would televise these races.

Yeah he moved there a couple years ago for the altitude.

I think as close as they will get is the live twitter feed bleh. I agree, they would be so entertaining for spectators!

2015-07-22 3:14 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Well you'll have plenty of uphill at low speed to generate some heat before you have the downhill.

2015-07-22 3:15 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.




Last year when I did Harvest Moon the water was about 63-65. I wore a sleeveless wetsuit and, with the exception of The Limb, I was fine and very comfortable. The muscles in The Limb don't like the cold water so they spasm. I wish they would just cramp but they are evil!

How many climbs are there on the bike? You may not even need a wind vest and it may make you over-heat. Maybe some arm coolers, which I wear to not only keep my arms cool in warm weather, but if I don't get them wet they keep my arms warm in cold weather. Socks are a must says The Limb in anything under 80.
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by fortissimo
Originally posted by laffinrock

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Last year when I did Harvest Moon the water was about 63-65. I wore a sleeveless wetsuit and, with the exception of The Limb, I was fine and very comfortable. The muscles in The Limb don't like the cold water so they spasm. I wish they would just cramp but they are evil! How many climbs are there on the bike? You may not even need a wind vest and it may make you over-heat. Maybe some arm coolers, which I wear to not only keep my arms cool in warm weather, but if I don't get them wet they keep my arms warm in cold weather. Socks are a must says The Limb in anything under 80.

You can see the elevation profile on Strava from when she rode it last week. She's basically going uphill for 6 miles before any downhill. Two miles of it will be rather hard. The next 1.5 miles still have more uphill with a couple shorter downhill breaks. Should be hot actually here as these were the sections being written about the last couple weeks. Then several miles of predominantly downhill.

 I wouldn't wear anything extra, but I'm in a different situation. I've gone without in under 50 before. Though I'm guessing most would still be fine like that if temps are in the 60's.



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2015-07-22 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by fortissimo
Originally posted by laffinrock

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Last year when I did Harvest Moon the water was about 63-65. I wore a sleeveless wetsuit and, with the exception of The Limb, I was fine and very comfortable. The muscles in The Limb don't like the cold water so they spasm. I wish they would just cramp but they are evil! How many climbs are there on the bike? You may not even need a wind vest and it may make you over-heat. Maybe some arm coolers, which I wear to not only keep my arms cool in warm weather, but if I don't get them wet they keep my arms warm in cold weather. Socks are a must says The Limb in anything under 80.

You can see the elevation profile on Strava from when she rode it last week. She's basically going uphill for 6 miles before any downhill. Two miles of it will be rather hard. The next 1.5 miles still have more uphill with a couple shorter downhill breaks. Should be hot actually here as these were the sections being written about the last couple weeks. Then several miles of predominantly downhill.

 I wouldn't wear anything extra, but I'm in a different situation. I've gone without in under 50 before. Though I'm guessing most would still be fine like that if temps are in the 60's.

When we rode it weekend before last, it took me 2-3 miles to get warm because everything is shaded.  I was wearing my tri suit, although it wasn't wet.  Maybe I should have dunked in the lake before I rode to simulate the race better!   Between easily chilling in the morning and being wet, I was mostly thinking about the wind vest to help on the first (mild uphill) and last (downhill) parts.  Even though the middle part is challenging, it's not terribly long (I can say that now!  It felt like forever the 1st couple times I rode it!) and there are a few downhills mixed in with the ups.  I think I'll be okay with the wind vest.  If I get too hot, I can always roll it down around my waist during one of my stops.  I don't have arm coolers/warmers; maybe I should get some and try them out before Sunday?



2015-07-22 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Two suggestions:

(1) stuff a zip lock bag (1 or 2 gallon size) under your top on the bike.  If you get hot, drop it at an aid station.  

(2) remember how wetsuits work -- you warm the water.  Some people think, "Oh, the water is cold, I will get in at the last second." These people are cold until the water next to their skin warms up.  During the warm up, get in the water and get the suit fully wet.

2015-07-22 4:28 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Two suggestions:

(1) stuff a zip lock bag (1 or 2 gallon size) under your top on the bike.  If you get hot, drop it at an aid station.  

(2) remember how wetsuits work -- you warm the water.  Some people think, "Oh, the water is cold, I will get in at the last second." These people are cold until the water next to their skin warms up.  During the warm up, get in the water and get the suit fully wet.

Great call out about how wetsuits work!

2015-07-22 4:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Two suggestions:

(1) stuff a zip lock bag (1 or 2 gallon size) under your top on the bike.  If you get hot, drop it at an aid station.  

(2) remember how wetsuits work -- you warm the water.  Some people think, "Oh, the water is cold, I will get in at the last second." These people are cold until the water next to their skin warms up.  During the warm up, get in the water and get the suit fully wet.

The ziplock bag is an awesome idea!!  I'm wearing a 2-piece suit, so that'll be really easy to do.  Gets rid of the vest and trying to fumble with a zipper when my hands are cold.  I don't know that there are aid stations for the bike, but I can always stuff it in my back pocket.

Thanks for the reminder about the water in the wetsuit thing--and to all of you for your reassurance about the colder water.

This tri is such a huge stretch goal for me and having such a big cheering section of knowledgeable racers makes an enormous difference!!  Tonight's race is a fun little XC run to shake out the legs.  I still love that I can say that a 3 mile race is "just a little run"!   It's almost hard to believe that only 18 mos. ago, doing any of this would have been impossible.

2015-07-22 7:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatees 2015.3 CLOSED (or Poptarts? Pet pics?)
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by laffinrock

Just found out that the water temp for my race this weekend will be 65-66*.  That's colder than other races and OWS's I've done.  As I've mentioned before, I have a sleeveless wetsuit and haven't practiced in a one with sleeves.  How's the cold going to affect me and is there anything I can do to mitigate any problems?  Is it worth considering renting a wetsuit with sleeves and practicing in the pool to before Sunday? Or I should just HTFU?

 What is the race distance?

I would be inclined to just race with what you have so long as it is a shorter race. Especially since it's what you are familiar with. 

What is the outside air temp? 

I agree with Salty. 65-66 probably isn't much colder than the pool you swim in, correct? Plus you'll have the benefit of having everything covered but your arms and shoulders. I think you'll be fine.

I'm so glad I don't swim in your pool! The only thing I can add is, nothing new on race day!

The swim is 750 m.  My main pool is pretty warm, like 84* warm.  Some of the others I go to are cooler than that.  The OWS swim I did this past weekend was about 68-70* I think and I was okay.  The air temp will be on the cooler side as well. My wave starts at 6:15 a.m. and the lake is at 7,000 ft.  When DH and I rode the bike route last time, it was probably in the mid-60's at 9 a.m.  I'm planning to wear a light wind vest and socks on the bike to help keep my core temp up.

Two suggestions:

(1) stuff a zip lock bag (1 or 2 gallon size) under your top on the bike.  If you get hot, drop it at an aid station.  

(2) remember how wetsuits work -- you warm the water.  Some people think, "Oh, the water is cold, I will get in at the last second." These people are cold until the water next to their skin warms up.  During the warm up, get in the water and get the suit fully wet.


And your head and face. This is the worst bit I find about the cold water, the rest of your body can be fine but when you put your face in it can take your breath away very quickly, you don't want this at the start of your race.

Get in the water and make sure you do a warm up with your head and face in. Once your ears stop burning from the cold you should be good to go.
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