Election 2016 (Page 40)

You're missing the point.  It's not about the people at the events.  It's about the DNC hiring and training people to incite violence from Trump supporters.  It's about Hillary's very campaign hiring people and flying them to Chicago to shut down a Trump rally.
You're OK with that?

I too have pity for those so blinded and lost that they ardently support an inarguably dangerous candidate.  (hey, we have something in common)  ;-) 

Interesting. Irrelevant, but interesting.
Wait. A. Minute...Is this closeted xenophobia rearing it's ugly head again? For shame.

FYI: I'm American.

3 weeks, 6 hours, 56 minutes.
Imma need some popcorn for this concession speech. Trump going full Trump.
Man, I really hope he doesn't read some pre-written sentence.

Sigh, whatever happened to the good ole days (back on page 26) when Trump was a "master manipulator of the news media". LOL

Don't confuse politics with a "rigged election".  Voter fraud is basically a non-factor.  If you want to complain about the media, well sorry - bias goes both ways.  Fox News has been at the forefront for years.  You're just feeling stranded now because Trump has pissed off half of the Republican establishment that would normally fight back on his behalf.

I know right.  He manipulated them to get a lot of free air time.  I guess that is kind of continuing.  /doh 
In all seriousness though, when there are blatantly bad things on both candidates and the media only reports on one side that is not how the media is supposed to work.  That is an extension of a political party.  

Do you remember when the media used to do investigative journalism?  You have to get on the inside to get the criminals to confess to their misdeeds.  By it's very nature the person who infiltrates is supposed to look like one of the crooks, so it's a little far fetched to call the people doing the story as criminals.

Lets see, Hillary's campaign manager (Mook) approves "Bird Dogging" and Robert Creamer who is the founder and partner of "Democracy Partners" stated on the video that Hillary is aware of everything they do.  Then you have the piece of garbage Scott Foval who is the national field director for "Americans United for Change" explaining in detail what "Bird Dogging" is and gives many examples of successful attacks.

Yeah, totally low level contractors and time to insert attack on source.  /eyeroll 

This is one of the biggest political scandals to ever be exposed to the light of day and you are correct that Hillary and the media is hoping (probably not praying) that it will blow over. 

The establishment has been after Trump since the first day of his candidacy.  I don't think it was even a matter of him them off, they were always going to work against him and it's actually been a positive, IMHO. 

Fox News is all that the liberals have been able to point to out of how many other stations and newspapers?  Yay, they have 2% of the media.  Oh wait, even Fox has been quite blatantly anti-trump as well outside of the Sean Hannity types which aren't really news. 

As for widespread voter fraud the second video today has some pretty good evidence that you are incorrect.  It seems to be quite well organized and it should make you wonder a little less now why the Democrats fight every legislature that tries to purge the voter registry of deceased people doesn't it?  (OK, I know it doesn't make you wonder)  

I know what you were saying, but I'm not sure where the relevance is compared to these videos.  It's pretty hard to "edit in" or take the statements in these videos out of context no matter who is doing the reporting.

Yeah, CNN is just all over this story and all the Wikileaks stuff too.  /snark

That's exactly my point.  Fox, and more importantly, the Wall Street Journal are not pro-Hillary but they certainly aren't stepping up to help Trump.  Especially the WSJ, with their fears about what a protectionist agenda will do to the market.

Conservatives were cheering the Citizens United decision.  But now that those money interests and big media aren't supporting Trump, you want a takeback.

I seem to recall most conservatives as being opposed to Citizens United.  I know I sure didn't like it.

I could be wrong, and it could just be "establishment conservatives" as well.  Either way, I'm not sure what that has to do with the media being completely one sided. 

Read here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/

and here:

http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

And if you still believe it's a serious problem after that, well I can't really help you.

I agree that it hasn't been caught very much, but that doesn't mean by default it's not happening.  (I haven't read both of those links yet, because I have to head home)
If you watch the second video from O'Keefe they're talking about how they're committing voter fraud so that they DON'T get caught. 

Obviously we can both agree that it's bigger than 31, but honestly have know way of knowing how big.  If it's a few thousand, or even ten thousand it's really not a big deal.  If it's a lot bigger (which I have no way of knowing) then it's obviously pretty bad.

In all seriousness I'm far more worried about the all digital voting devices.  In theory one kid in Russia could toss an entire state if he hacks the right thing.  Then again... The Russians are helping Trump... Never mind...  (kidding kidding)

Hah, proof the system is rigged

There is a way: which is states that have had manual recounts.  Florida during the Bush versus Gore election for example.  Washington state also had a recount in a governor election not too long ago.  I'm sure they have info on # of ballots discarded for every reason ("hanging chads", whatever).

But if you read those links, he's been researching elections for well over a decade and has lots of data that I probably haven't even thought of.

With the fraud described in the video they would be valid ballots in the system.  Votes aren't tied to individuals to be vetted in recounts.  I know when I drop my ballot in the box its in the system period.  Even if I was busted later they couldn't invalidate mine.

It might differ state to state then.  I know in Florida on their recount, just for example, was purging invalid ballots (felons, non-citizens, etc).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

In Nebraska we come in and give our name.  They look it up in the book and I sign by my name and then they give me a blank bubble sheet ballot with no identification markings.
I then fill in my Bubbles and slide it into a box with the other ballots.

They could come in and say that there was an anomaly and see that I voted or that my name was signed, but there'd be no way to identify my actual ballot and remove it if there was something nefarious. 

Still think these guys are low level contractors?  If so then why did Creamer visit the White House 340 times, including 45 times to meet directly with Obama?  Turns out he's already a convicted Felon too and spent time in Federal prison.  Seems like the perfect guy to be involved in Clinton's campaign. 

... and 

First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.

Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.

Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.

Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.