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2006-11-05 1:54 PM |
Champion 8903 | Subject: Lance break 3 hours Just watched the recap of the NY City Marathon, and noted that Armstrong, using pacers like Joan Benoit, Alberto Salazar, and German da Silva, ran roughly a 2:59:35 race. Nice going Lance!
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2006-11-05 1:56 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Master 3019 West Jordan, UT | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Lance is an animal! I am sure he could get close to 2 hours if he wanted to. |
2006-11-05 1:59 PM in reply to: #589502 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours World record marathons are a world away from 3 hour marathons. tkbslc - 2006-11-05 1:56 PM Lance is an animal! I am sure he could get close to 2 hours if he wanted to. |
2006-11-05 2:03 PM in reply to: #589502 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours tkbslc - 2006-11-05 1:56 PM Lance is an animal! I am sure he could get close to 2 hours if he wanted to.
Lance has way too much upper body mass to run a 2 hr mathon. I don't care much for elite marathoners' physiques.....guess that's what drew me towards triathons.
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2006-11-05 2:13 PM in reply to: #589502 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours tkbslc - 2006-11-05 1:56 PM Lance is an animal! I am sure he could get close to 2 hours if he wanted to. did you forget to use the sarcasm font? |
2006-11-05 2:15 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Expert 957 | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours During the broadcast, one of the announcers said that he generally weighed like 160-165 at the start of the Tour de France and that he is now about 180. If he wanted to get down to that kind of weight again and actually trained more and better (and not have shin splints), he could probably get down to like 2:30ish if that was his goal. |
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2006-11-05 8:41 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Regular 71 Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours someone told me that the longest run he'd done was a 16 miler??? Anyone else hear that? I know the guy has lungs and heart of steel, but he's going to be sore tomorrow. |
2006-11-05 8:46 PM in reply to: #589688 |
Master 1381 Clifton, NJ | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours thewiseacre - 2006-11-05 9:41 PM someone told me that the longest run he'd done was a 16 miler??? Anyone else hear that? I know the guy has lungs and heart of steel, but he's going to be sore tomorrow. NY Times article has him saying just that at the end of the race: About 18 miles into the New York City Marathon yesterday, as Lance Armstrong made his way toward East Harlem, he said his legs started to feel as heavy as anchors “That’s when I started to feel helpless,” Armstrong said after the race, as he was driven back to his hotel across from Central Park. “‘I thought, ‘Uh-oh, maybe I should have trained a little harder for this. I think I’m in trouble.” “I can tell you, 20 years of pro sports, endurance sports, from triathlons to cycling, all of the Tours, even the worst days on the Tours, nothing was as hard as that and nothing left me feeling the way I feel now, in terms of just sheer fatigue and soreness,” he said, looking red-faced and spent, at a news conference. “I wasn’t kidding when I said that I’ve never felt this bad, ever,” he said. “My legs are killing me. My back doesn’t feel that great, either. I’m really suffering.” his heart got him through it. -mary |
2006-11-05 8:53 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Extreme Veteran 367 | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours I was wondering what his longest run was. One of the announcers said something like "I don't have much confidence in him, considering he hasn't ever done the distance before" and I thought that was odd, considering MOST first-timer training plans only get you to 20 miles before the big event. Either Lance didn't do his homework, or the announcer didn't. Looks like it may have been Lance! He was still great though. I ran "with" him for about a half hour (watched while on the treadmill at home) and that was enough for me ... not even at his pace either |
2006-11-05 8:59 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Regular 71 Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours I've never done an Ironman (2008, look out!) but the four marathons I did were much, much more painful than that HIM I did this year. And I trained pretty hard for all of 'em. So while I'm stoked that Lance did a marathon, I'm glad the guy suffered like the rest of us commoners. The fact that he ran his first that fast is very, very impressive. And really, I wonder what kind of mileage he put in before the race. It's not as much as conquering the 20 mile mark (although that was pretty key for me in training), it's more his general long-distance running fitness. A guy like him, who's notorious for his iron will, can chew out the distance of a race that long. But at what cost? I wonder if he was putting in 30 or 40 or 50 miles per week of training? |
2006-11-05 9:08 PM in reply to: #589698 |
Master 1381 Clifton, NJ | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours thewiseacre - 2006-11-05 9:59 PM And really, I wonder what kind of mileage he put in before the race. It's not as much as conquering the 20 mile mark (although that was pretty key for me in training), it's more his general long-distance running fitness. A guy like him, who's notorious for his iron will, can chew out the distance of a race that long. But at what cost? I wonder if he was putting in 30 or 40 or 50 miles per week of training? according to the NY Times he put in 45 minutes a day running - but it doesn't say how far her ran or how many days a week he ran... he's certainly feeling the pain now. -m |
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2006-11-05 9:11 PM in reply to: #589696 |
Master 1381 Clifton, NJ | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours maxpixie - 2006-11-05 9:53 PM p>He was still great though. I ran "with" him for about a half hour (watched while on the treadmill at home) and that was enough for me ... not even at his pace either he IS still great - and he inspires so many people, raised 600 grand for his foundation in the process... i admire him a great deal i also admire anyone who can run a marathon during the broadcast, one of the announcers said "why didn't Pheidippides drop dead at 16 miles instead of 26.2?" LOL -mary |
2006-11-05 9:28 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Master 3019 West Jordan, UT | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Why is everybody trying to belittle Lance and his accomplishments? How many BTers have done a sub 3 marathon? How many did it on their first try? I still stand by my original comments that Lance IS an animal. And he also has the conditioning that I think he COULD become very competitive at marathon racing if he wanted to. It would take considerable training, but he's used to that.
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2006-11-05 9:31 PM in reply to: #589698 |
Expert 694 Charleston, SC | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours thewiseacre - 2006-11-05 8:59 PM I wonder if he was putting in 30 or 40 or 50 miles per week of training? I heard he was doing about 30mi/week. The fact that he seemed somewhat under trained but managed a sub 3hr is a true testiment to his natural athletic prowess and ball of steel. |
2006-11-05 11:16 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Champion 6931 Bellingham, Washington | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours And he's been plagued with shin splints. Had some tape on one at the finish. Also notice German kept getting him water cups. Think that was to keep him in his own little peleton. |
2006-11-05 11:24 PM in reply to: #589499 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Personally.... I think the guy is just BADASS! |
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2006-11-06 4:38 AM in reply to: #589499 |
Extreme Veteran 1491 northeast Ohio | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Darn you Lance! Why couldn't you have run just a little faster? I think I had something like 2:54:?? in the Runner's World contest. LOL! The guy is awesome and it's fun to hear about him doing a marathon. |
2006-11-06 5:40 AM in reply to: #589717 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Who's belittling him? I don't think you'll find a person here who isn't impressed by a sub 3 hour marathon on his first try. But that's a far cry from claiming that he has the potential to be world class at running marathons. It's not always a matter of willpower and desire. tkbslc - 2006-11-05 9:28 PM Why is everybody trying to belittle Lance and his accomplishments? How many BTers have done a sub 3 marathon? How many did it on their first try? I still stand by my original comments that Lance IS an animal. And he also has the conditioning that I think he COULD become very competitive at marathon racing if he wanted to. It would take considerable training, but he's used to that.
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2006-11-06 6:01 AM in reply to: #589502 |
Fishers, IN | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Only if he carved away 40 lbs! Elite marathoners of his height weigh ~ 138lbs. I am certain he could do a whole lot better than he had put in an optimal training effort. I do not think he had a chance with his schedule, but he really does not have the build for anything in the low 2's. Too stalky, short legs, and too heavy. |
2006-11-06 7:33 AM in reply to: #589717 |
Master 1670 Harvard, Illinois | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours tkbslc - 2006-11-05 9:28 PM Why is everybody trying to belittle Lance and his accomplishments? How many BTers have done a sub 3 marathon? How many did it on their first try?
I think it is great that Lance broke three hours but he used pacers. The question should be, how many BTers have done a sub 3 marathon on their first try with pacers? I would be even more impressed with him if he ran by himself like every other person out there.
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2006-11-06 7:34 AM in reply to: #589717 |
Pro 4675 Wisconsin near the Twin Cities metro | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours tkbslc - 2006-11-05 9:28 PM How many BTers have done a sub 3 marathon? How many did it on their first try? at least one... Lance is one of the greatest athletes in history. I really don't understand this fascination with trying to argue how fast he can do a marathon if he really trained for it. Sure, it was fun to try to guess what his time would be yesterday, but he has nothing to prove. It was something on his "life list" that he wanted to do and he said he would like to break 3 hours (and beating Lauren Jalabert's post-cycling retirement marathon time would have been a bonus). He did it, raised a bunch of money, end of story. Edited by Birkierunner 2006-11-06 7:38 AM |
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2006-11-06 9:13 AM in reply to: #589499 |
Extreme Veteran 339 Tucson, AZ | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours My Runner's World projection was 56seconds off! Man if he could have only shuffled through a little bit faster! |
2006-11-06 9:37 AM in reply to: #589499 |
SF Bay Area, Mountain View | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours what impresses me most is that he freely admits to have underestimated what it takes to run the marathon. |
2006-11-06 9:41 AM in reply to: #589698 |
Pro 4054 yep, | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours thewiseacre - 2006-11-05 9:59 PM I've never done an Ironman (2008, look out!) but the four marathons I did were much, much more painful than that HIM I did this year. And I trained pretty hard for all of 'em. So while I'm stoked that Lance did a marathon, I'm glad the guy suffered like the rest of us commoners. The fact that he ran his first that fast is very, very impressive. And really, I wonder what kind of mileage he put in before the race. It's not as much as conquering the 20 mile mark (although that was pretty key for me in training), it's more his general long-distance running fitness. A guy like him, who's notorious for his iron will, can chew out the distance of a race that long. But at what cost? I wonder if he was putting in 30 or 40 or 50 miles per week of training?
I heard he was doing around 30. If you pick up your latest runners world magazine it has a great interview with him and shows how much of an Idol he really is. I plan on this winter doing some reading of his books. |
2006-11-06 9:44 AM in reply to: #589499 |
Expert 919 | Subject: RE: Lance break 3 hours Heck of a job |
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