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2007-10-08 3:29 PM

Subject: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
Okay, so after not totally sucking at the Giant Acorn, I am wicked psyched for next year's tri season My question is, how early can you feasibly start solidfying your schedule, so that you can plan your training appropriately? I am using the year-long basic outline from the Triathlete's Training Bible over the winter, and have it so that it will put me out at the end of Base 2 by April-ish, then I could schedule the peak weeks and do my first race of the season in late April/early May. From there, though, it'll be the fine art of scheduling races and figuring out when to schedule the peaks and tapers and rests etc around them all. Right now I'm going through the ones from this fall and seeing which ones I might be interested in doing next year (mostly local races to save money on travel, but I do want to do one near my hometown so my parents can come). Any thoughts? How do you guys go about it?

I also might try to shoot for an Oly at the very end of the season - just finishing it, nothing crazy. Is that crazy? (Assuming I really whoop my a$$ into shape over the winter)


2007-10-08 3:32 PM
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As soon as the race schedule comes out.

I've got a fairly good idea of the races I want to do, and when they're offered, so really it's already at a somewhat solid state now. There will just be small changes for additions in the early season for me (that will require a small amount of travel).

2007-10-08 3:36 PM
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Not tri-specific, but hey, planning is planning.

I have a few designated races I know I will do.  I plan around the longer ones (since they will take more training).

As an example, I planned around Baltimore and CIM in Dec.  Backwards planned out the various phases, and there ya go.  Anything else (at least this year) was filler/fun.

After CIM, I'm looking at a 10K "season", focusing on improving my road 10K time (we ahev a four month series that ends in March).  After that, I'll probably plan it out for an early SEP marathon. 

2007-10-08 3:43 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
I'm currently planning 2010....
2007-10-08 3:45 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
I have my basic framework planned for next year... first Olympic in May, second in July, 1/2 IM in September.  Other sprints as they fit into the calendar.
2007-10-08 3:53 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?

Considering I've already paid for (and the races are already closed) two races for next year I have to plan way ahead .....

There are certain local races I do every year regardless whether they are as training runs/races or ones I go all out at (a few 5ks, a 5 miler and a half and full marathon) as long as they fit in my schedule.  Kona typically is the same weekend as the Baltimore marathon (which after this weekend I will have participated in for the last 4 years) and it is my goal that I miss the marathon next year since I'll have another committment on the schedule that October day.



2007-10-08 4:01 PM
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2007-10-08 4:31 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
Well 2008 is planned (already started reg.) and most of 2009 is mapped out...
2007-10-08 4:37 PM
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running2far - 2007-10-08 5:31 PM

Well 2008 is planned (already started reg.) and most of 2009 is mapped out...


Dang, two years ahead...I'm not quite hard-core enough for that yet. I would hope I'm beyond the sprint level by 2009, so that would make a huge difference. I am mostly going to do sprints since 2008 will be my first REAL tri-season (as in races from April/May to October), and work on just getting fast with those distances, but I might attempt an Oly later in the season, if I can find one that doesn't look too scary.
2007-10-08 5:03 PM
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I have my 'A' races planned for the next two years. My 2007 season had been planned for well over a year.



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2007-10-08 5:13 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
I'm planning now for next year, so I don't miss out on registering for good races.  Several around here fill up quickly.  I am also planning (signed up for, tickets purchased, etc) for a few running races during the winter.  So far a 10 miler and a half-mary, because the training is fun to me and it's a nice goal.  I will probably add in a few other road races in the winter at the last minute and hope to do the same for tris next summer, once I sort out what's important.


2007-10-08 5:33 PM
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PennState - 2007-10-08 2:01 PM

My advice would be this:

Decide what distance you want to focus on... sprint, olympic, 1/2 IM or IM.

I would pay for 1 or 2 races way ahead of time if they tend to sell out early. This would leave you time to book others if you wanted.

My season is:

1. Columbia Olympic May 2008
2. Black Bear HIM June 2008
3. IMLP July 2008
4. Muskoka 70.3 Sept 2008
5. JFK Ultra 50 miler Nvember 2008.

And Rick, good luck in the Baltimore marathon next year



I'm glad somebody has brought this up. How do you train for different distance races that are only a month apart? I want to do the Tempe International triathlon sprint distance on May 18th and I'd also like to do the Oly BAM triathlon in Heber Utah on June 14th. I'm running in the RnR half marathon in January 13th (depending on how my doctor's appointment goes tomorrow, I might have CECS and in that case I'll need surgery) and would start training for the tri season a week after the half marathon. I'm thinking that if I train for an oly distance then I'll be more then covered for the sprint and then I can spend a few weeks after the sprint building volume before tapering for the oly. Next season (my first season) I'm only going to do sprint and oly distances so If I'm always training for an oly distance then there shouldn't be a need to train for a sprint and then do a different training plan for oly distance.

Is this logic correct?
2007-10-08 5:45 PM
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2007-10-08 5:51 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?

Mirg--just in my experience, and from conventional wisdom around here, yes, training for the longer distances also makes you appropriately faster at the shorter ones.

Chrissy--Triathlete's Training Bible is good stuff. As you know, I have an obsession with lists of numbers (which I've thankfully passed to you ) ...

Every single workout and race between now and March 29, 2008 (California 70.3) is planned.

General periods, training scheme, and likely races are planned through February 28, 2009 (IM NZ).

I use target races and work around/backwards from them.

Feel free to e-mail me if you want to see what this all looks like. 

I think you would do great in an Oly at the end of the season (hell, you'd probably do great in one at the beginning, but another season of sprints would make you fantastic).

 

2007-10-08 6:34 PM
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I have 2008 outlined already.   Like this year I'll have a TriAmerica long course (1.5x Oly) in April, a sprint in June and a local Oly in October.  I want to do a HIM during the summer so I'm going for the Mussleman in NY (July) while I'm on the annual summer vacation, registration opens Nov 1st!  09 I'm considering an IM, LP would be the logical one since I'm always in upstate NY in July and it lines up well for when I can do most of the training in near perfect FL weather!

I need to full resolve my injury first (Plantar F) then kick the base training into high gear soon, the 1st race is ~26 weeks away Surprised

 

2007-10-08 6:36 PM
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PennState - 2007-10-08 3:45 PM

I think your logic is fine. The distance matters depending on your base and experience. Most normal humans don't do more than 1 or maybe 2 IMs in a year. I think for HIMs that the recovery is much shorter (at least for me) and you can schedule more. Olympics and sprints are even shorter recoveries, but if this is your first yea of tri's, then having some space in between is wise.

It depends how fit you are etc etc.



Makes since. I'm probably not in great shape now (in fact I know I'm not) I would like to drop 20lbs to get down to 170. I need to get the problem I'm having in my legs sorted out so I can train, as for now I can't run more then 3 miles and that's not going to cut it.

I was looking at the couch to sprint and couch to Olympic training plans and they look great except for the fact that they are both centered around time and not necessarily distance or drill work. I know that after a month of clean eating and hard training I'll be able to take on a more demanding training routine. I was thinking about using this one to build my base and then just using select weeks of it inbetween races that are not 12 weeks apart. I figure that I could take a week off from each race and then spend half the remaining time training with a lot of volume and the other half of the time between races tapering from that. The only problem is that it is a 39 week training program and that seems a little long. I guess I could just stop being a cheap skate and get a membership here and get a more detailed training program.

http://opentri.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=43


2007-10-08 6:40 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
As others have already said, there are certain races I build the year around and then fill in. It was easy when I was just running...this whole triathlon thing really makes it complicated...

The lynchpins for the year for me (at this point) are LA Marathon at the beginning of March, Bay to Breakers (12K) in SF in mid-May, and Malibu Tri in mid-September. I want to find an oly I can do as early in the year as possible and I'm going to attempt a HIM. Until I got injured last week, I was going to attempt what I've been calling (to myself) "March Madness": LA mary and then IM 70.3 Cal four weeks later. May still do that if I can get back on the bike soon enough this fall, but circumstances may dictate finding another CA HIM later in the year (maybe Vineman).

I do try to stay open to a certain amount of whim. My training regimen is relatively loosely structured (for sanity purposes) and I try to be moderately flexible with my race calendar. Important thing is to be sure to get into the races I really want to be in...which, for me, anyhow, dictates how early I start planning...
2007-10-08 7:54 PM
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PennState - 2007-10-08 5:01 PM

And Rick, good luck in the Baltimore marathon next year

D-ck ..... Tongue out Wink

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2007-10-08 8:12 PM
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My 2008 is already planned, thru Sept. It has to be, the races I'm doing will sell out (Desoto, Lou). Coincidentally, those are my A-races, so everything else will revolve around those.

And no, there's no training plan that's going to help you be fast in sprints, OLYs, IM's, Marathons, and 5K's.  The season is long, the races are plentiful, but you're not going to go max speed in them all. It's a fact.

2007-10-08 10:23 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
Wow, everyone plans so far ahead! I suppose that after this coming season, I can do that too, as I will be more aware of my abilities as well as my limits. But seeing as how this tri-season was my first and I only did two, 2008 will be my first "real" season, so I'll only be doing sprints and maybe an Oly. Yanti, I might shoot you some PMs about stuff...


2007-10-08 11:08 PM
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Wouldn't that mean I would have to stop first? HAHAHA!
2007-10-08 11:11 PM
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2007-10-08 11:45 PM
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Subject: RE: How Early Do You Start Planning Your Season?
Where do you all find listings for races that far out? I can only seem to find 2007 races, most of which are now done and I want to start planning for next season. Sorry for the newbie question here.

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2007-10-08 11:49 PM
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Have to figure out vacation time, hotel reservations, , plus the longer to wait to sign up, the $$$ goes up.

I've got 2008 almost planned out, a few tweeks here or there.

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