Increasing power threshold over the winter
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2007-12-12 1:15 PM |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: Increasing power threshold over the winter Just checking who are the BTers training with a power meter (or considering it) who will be or are working towards increasing their power threshold and kick butt next season. I want to set a list so we can exchange training sessions, other info, encourage each other, etc. anyone? anyone? Bueller? Bueller...
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2007-12-12 1:30 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter Me! Me! I just did my second FTP test ever last Tuesday and now am kind of like....now what? Reading the Training with a Power Meter book and was going to apply some of those workouts but anything else would be groovy. |
2007-12-12 1:34 PM in reply to: #1097856 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter If I could get an Ergometer that worked with my 177.5 cranks I might be in that fold ..... but I'm not going to drop the bucks for a PT and then either not be able to train with it or not race with it (and there is no way in hell that I'd buy two separate wheels). |
2007-12-12 1:40 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter I'm on the fence between getting a power meter, porwercranks or just getting some cool wheels.. since those three are fairly close to the price range that I had saved up for. in reality the wheels are most likely not going to happen since it doesn't really help me get better overall. I've been reading a lot of back post's here and one other sites and the book store, and getting opinions from people that have both...I have some testing set up to see what my numbers currently are and to talk with a coach about the whole power thing. It's my christmas gift to myself so I still have a little time to decide. |
2007-12-12 1:48 PM in reply to: #1097882 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter |
2007-12-12 1:52 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter IMO the power meter will be better than the PC because a PM is a training tool that can benefit your training AND racing. IOW if you learn to use the info and use it to make better pacing choices. It also provides great info to manage your other training (swim/run). The problme with a PM is that you have to learn how to use and that's a time investment that not many are willing to do. (unless you have someone who can help). I personally don't believe the claims for the PC although I acknowledge that it seems it motivates athletes to ride more and that is always a good thing. In the end both are just training tools that will only work if you ride your bike |
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2007-12-12 1:52 PM in reply to: #1097882 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter Gaarryy - 2007-12-12 2:40 PM I'm on the fence between getting a power meter, porwercranks or just getting some cool wheels.. since those three are fairly close to the price range that I had saved up for. in reality the wheels are most likely not going to happen since it doesn't really help me get better overall. I've been reading a lot of back post's here and one other sites and the book store, and getting opinions from people that have both...I have some testing set up to see what my numbers currently are and to talk with a coach about the whole power thing. It's my christmas gift to myself so I still have a little time to decide. I chose the Power Tap over new, cool wheels. This is how I rationalized it to myself: When I show up to race IMLP on July 20, 2008, I'll probably be able to put up a better bike split by having trained with power for the 8 months prior than having trained without power but using cool wheels on race day. Edited by LaurenSU02 2007-12-12 1:53 PM |
2007-12-12 1:56 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter I am...my goal is to get to 213 by IMLP. |
2007-12-12 2:09 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Master 2808 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter I am just dipping my toe in the water with respect to power training. I've got a Computrainer and am working with a coach to improve my biking. Coach is writing the plans as I've opted not to research how to train with power. I've got plans to get a PT, but will do that when I get outside - which is about 6 mo's from now. |
2007-12-12 2:15 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter After taking almost a month off the bike (thanks for noticing Lauren ), I'm just about ready to get back in gear. |
2007-12-12 2:29 PM in reply to: #1097960 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter JohnnyKay - 2007-12-12 2:15 PM After taking almost a month off the bike (thanks for noticing Lauren ), I'm just about ready to get back in gear. Ha, me too!I am affraid of jumping on the trainer and doing a "you suck" threshold test but I'll do that this week... |
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2007-12-12 2:33 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter Would you say that a jump from 292 to 325 FTP by March is doable? |
2007-12-12 2:33 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Master 2808 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter I just did the CT 10TT after taking a couple mo's off. I found out pretty quickly that I suck - glad I'm not the only one. Nowhere to go but up! |
2007-12-12 2:39 PM in reply to: #1098022 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter jszat - 2007-12-12 2:33 PM Would you say that a jump from 292 to 325 FTP by March is doable? Doable, but no slam dunk. Depends what level of fitness 292 represents for you (e.g., back on the bike after a month layoff or 6 months into a focused training program) and how much of your training you can devote to bike FT (versus swimming & running, for example). |
2007-12-12 2:43 PM in reply to: #1098037 |
Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter JohnnyKay - 2007-12-12 2:39 PM Its kind of fitness after almost three weeks back on the bike after MOO. A buddy of mine on here and myself fronted 4 Computrainers and a plasma and office space so I generally am there anyway 3-4x a week to open the place to others and ride if somethings is open. Trying for about 80-100 miles a week and throwing in more int stuff than last year.jszat - 2007-12-12 2:33 PM Would you say that a jump from 292 to 325 FTP by March is doable? Doable, but no slam dunk. Depends what level of fitness 292 represents for you (e.g., back on the bike after a month layoff or 6 months into a focused training program) and how much of your training you can devote to bike FT (versus swimming & running, for example). |
2007-12-12 2:53 PM in reply to: #1098012 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter amiine - 2007-12-12 2:29 PM JohnnyKay - 2007-12-12 2:15 PM After taking almost a month off the bike (thanks for noticing Lauren ), I'm just about ready to get back in gear. Ha, me too!I am affraid of jumping on the trainer and doing a "you suck" threshold test but I'll do that this week... I'll get back on the bike next week (and then off again over the holidays), but hold off on the "you suck" test until after New Year's. |
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2007-12-12 2:54 PM in reply to: #1098044 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter jszat - 2007-12-12 2:43 PM JohnnyKay - 2007-12-12 2:39 PM Its kind of fitness after almost three weeks back on the bike after MOO. A buddy of mine on here and myself fronted 4 Computrainers and a plasma and office space so I generally am there anyway 3-4x a week to open the place to others and ride if somethings is open. Trying for about 80-100 miles a week and throwing in more int stuff than last year.jszat - 2007-12-12 2:33 PM Would you say that a jump from 292 to 325 FTP by March is doable? Doable, but no slam dunk. Depends what level of fitness 292 represents for you (e.g., back on the bike after a month layoff or 6 months into a focused training program) and how much of your training you can devote to bike FT (versus swimming & running, for example). Sounds like that'll get you moving in the right direction at the very least. |
2007-12-12 2:56 PM in reply to: #1097912 |
Elite 2915 New City, New York | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter I chose the new, cool wheels over the Power Tap mostly cuz Cappy gave me a great deal. This is how I rationalized it to myself: My power tap:
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2007-12-12 2:57 PM in reply to: #1097826 |
Master 1728 portland, or | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter |
2007-12-12 3:06 PM in reply to: #1098075 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter rollinbones - 2007-12-12 3:56 PM I chose the new, cool wheels over the Power Tap mostly cuz Cappy gave me a great deal. This is how I rationalized it to myself: My power tap:
I'll be sure to comment on how "good" you look when I fly past you... (Kidding, of course.) |
2007-12-12 3:10 PM in reply to: #1098089 |
Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter LaurenSU02 - 2007-12-12 3:06 PM rollinbones - 2007-12-12 3:56 PM I chose the new, cool wheels over the Power Tap mostly cuz Cappy gave me a great deal. This is how I rationalized it to myself: My power tap:
I'll be sure to comment on how "good" you look when I fly past you... (Kidding, of course.) day-um. |
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2007-12-12 3:14 PM in reply to: #1098089 |
Elite 2915 New City, New York | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter lol. you better be flying cuz you'll be lapping me. Ain't no way I'll be ahead of you coming out of the water! I've seen your logs LaurenSU02 - 2007-12-12 4:06 PM rollinbones - 2007-12-12 3:56 PM I chose the new, cool wheels over the Power Tap mostly cuz Cappy gave me a great deal. This is how I rationalized it to myself: My power tap:
I'll be sure to comment on how "good" you look when I fly past you... (Kidding, of course.) |
2007-12-12 3:14 PM in reply to: #1098099 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter jszat - 2007-12-12 4:10 PM LaurenSU02 - 2007-12-12 3:06 PM rollinbones - 2007-12-12 3:56 PM I chose the new, cool wheels over the Power Tap mostly cuz Cappy gave me a great deal. This is how I rationalized it to myself: My power tap:
I'll be sure to comment on how "good" you look when I fly past you... (Kidding, of course.) day-um. Oh, no, maybe that came out wrong. I was kidding about the passing him part...not kidding about the looking-good part. I am sure he will look very good out there. Edited by LaurenSU02 2007-12-12 3:15 PM |
2007-12-12 3:15 PM in reply to: #1098022 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter jszat - 2007-12-12 2:33 PM Would you say that a jump from 292 to 325 FTP by March is doable? based on your response to JK I think is very doable and reasonable goal to strive for with proper training and at least 2x FT sessions a week with some VO2 cycles in between once FT sessions level. |
2007-12-12 3:17 PM in reply to: #1097911 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Increasing power threshold over the winter amiine - 2007-12-12 1:52 PM IMO the power meter will be better than the PC because a PM is a training tool that can benefit your training AND racing. IOW if you learn to use the info and use it to make better pacing choices. It also provides great info to manage your other training (swim/run). The problme with a PM is that you have to learn how to use and that's a time investment that not many are willing to do. (unless you have someone who can help). I personally don't believe the claims for the PC although I acknowledge that it seems it motivates athletes to ride more and that is always a good thing. In the end both are just training tools that will only work if you ride your bike
thanks for the advice Jorge, I think the nice young lady put it best about the wheels,, they will only help a little on the day of the race I'd rather get to be a better rider then get the wheels I don't really believe lots of claims people make about their products so I'm not too swayed by the Powercranks claim but as someone whose opinion I respect put it. "they are idiot proof, just put them on and ride and you will see some benefit" I agree that benefit might be from just riding more though I guess my thought process or what has stopped me from getting a power meter so far is that I don't know much about it.. . please correct or educate me if I'm wrong since the more I read the more i get confused with questions but to me {PT}it's just another training number much like a HR zone, If I should be striving to hit "X" power number during training or racing how does that take into effect other stuff like a windy day, being on a hilly course or just having a crappy day where I'm working hard to do normal stuff at least with my HR I have the illision of seeing how hard my body is actually working. Woulnd't it be pretty easy to go too hard to hit a certain number and actually be frying your legs for the run?/ It might be my medical background giving too much credit to watching the HR though. I know I want a power meter and most likely will eventually get one, which is why everytime I get ready to hit buy on the powercrank site I think.. maybe if I read some more on PT I'll finally "get it". But to be honest it's a little imtimitadating sifting though all the info and realizing that once I get it I"m going to have to be reading up some and most likely still be confused. **oh yea sorry for hi-jacking your thread** |
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