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2008-02-28 10:19 PM
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todsulli - 2008-02-28 10:14 PM Thank you well said. The statement I made was not suppose to be taken as a mean comment but more just a realistic comment on the everyday patients that come into my practice on a daily basis. I would say 1 in 5 of my patients are taking a cholesterol medication and for a large portion of these people they are overweight, eat unhealthy and want an easy fix to the problem.

For full disclosure, I think you should have mentioned that you're a chiropractor in your original post.

I don't mean anything negative by that btw.  Just want people to be clear who the source of info is when they make their own judgement about info presented.

 

2008-02-28 10:23 PM
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Count me as one who's family history almost killed him as far as cholesterol goes. Was in the gym 3-4 times a week, long distance cyclist and decent diet, and had an MI at the age of 34. As my cardiologist told me. . ."As much as we know about how heart attacks and how to prevent them, there is 3x as much that we don't know when it comes to genetics and why things happen the way they do." Genetics and family history my friends -- they can be a real mother!

As I laid in ICU I decided I will spend the rest of my life fighting those cards that I have been dealt. I dropped 40 lbs, started on a statin, and further cleaned up my diet and lifestyle and more importantly began training for my 4 triathlons coming up this summer. Finished my first Olympic distance race sim this week a little under 3 hrs -- I feel great, look great, and am never looking back. . .all that to say - take your meds if you're predisposed cause it can happen to anyone

Check out the blog in my MYSPACE account at www.myspace.com/jncbaldomir if you want to read about my whole MI experience beginning to end.

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2008-02-28 10:27 PM
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big john h - 2008-02-28 8:25 PM
He says doctor's get paid to write scripts so they do.


What part of my paycheck to I look under to see what I'm getting paid to write scripts?
2008-02-28 10:38 PM
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I've had a long history of cholesterol figures well above the 300 mark, despite good diet and exercise. I've made the decision not to take any medicine despite the urgings of my doc. Fact is, I've had a few family members react poorly to the meds, and don't feel like playing the same game.

I know the muscle fatigue, loss of muscle and liver damage are not common, but my doctor was not knowledgable enough to answer my questions and that just left me very uncomfortable. I would suggest listening to your doctor, but making the decision for yourself. d
2008-02-28 11:56 PM
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big john h - 2008-02-28 9:25 PM Mike The Bear, his statement of "but for some people who do not want to change their eating and exercise its an easy way to lower cholesterol" might sound mean but he is mostly correct. My best friend is a doctor and he said America is fat and lazy and poorly nutritioned. MANY people see a pill as a magic elixir to make them healthy. He said there are way too many people on statins who don't need to be - people with only marginally high total cholesterol, etc.. He says doctor's get paid to write scripts so they do. I asked my doc (my old doc) about taking zetia instead of a statin or the beenfits of red rice yeast and he basicly laughed at me and said take crestor. i refused. i started taking red rice yeast. i lowered my total cholesterol 100 points with NO statins. there are people who need them i suppose. i mean if you don't smoke, don't drink, have a great diet, exercise constantly and still have HIGH cholesterol (over 250) then I would think a statin would probably be ebenficial if plant sterols, red rice yeast, cold water fish oil, etc. didn't help you first

I never said his post was mean; I said it was condescending. Velocomp didn't ask for alternatives to statins. He asked whether statins would affect his training. The post was condescending. I agree that the majority of people need to clean up their diet and exercise. But as I said and Velocomp confirmed, your own body makes 80-90% of its cholesterol. Eliminating cholesterol from your diet will only have a small effect, and it may even have no effect at all depending on what other factors are involved. There are complex mechanisms that cause the body to produce, and perhaps overproduce, cholesterol. The idea that cleaning up your diet will automatically lead to good heart health is oversimplified.

2008-02-29 5:39 AM
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AdventureBear - 2008-02-28 10:27 PM
big john h - 2008-02-28 8:25 PM He says doctor's get paid to write scripts so they do.
What part of my paycheck to I look under to see what I'm getting paid to write scripts?
You do know that your post is just part of the conspiracy, right?


2008-02-29 6:17 AM
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Yes, I am a chiropractor with a diplomate in Nutrition and I am also a certified strength and condition specialist by the NSCA. I also treat many professional athletes in my area including elite triathletes and marathon runners. Like I said is some cases were there is a strong genetic component medication may be appropriate but the average patient that I see that is on statins is overweight and has poor eating habits and they have no desire to change their lifestyle. As far as getting paid to write scripts for meds I highly doubt that is the case for the MD's
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