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 2010-06-09 4:57 PM |
Master  1572    Baltimore |  Subject: Boycott BPI've gotten invites to facebook groups and seen things about boycotting BP. I'm not going to, here's why: I don't think BP is any worse than any other oil company out there, so if you boycott BP, you should boycott all oil (not a bad idea actually). This could have happened to any company, it was bad luck for BP it happened to them. I have a BP Visa card and get 5% off all gas there. I logically have to believe they are doing everything in their power to clean up the spill and to stop it. It just doesn't make sense for them not to. Maybe they could save a few million by going cheapo on the cleanup effort, but the horrible PR is 10 times worse. If they had the power to stop it by now they would have. If they could have spent and extra billion now to stop it/control it, it would have saved 5 times that down the road...I have to imagine their managers know that. I remember when BP rebranded to Beyond Petrolium they were taking initiatives to find other energy sources. I don't think it was ALL lip service, so I'm glad they do/did that. If we boycott them successfully and bankrupt them - who will pay then? If all their assests to towards funding cleanup, their other debts get ignored, and someone else gets shafted. I'm really not an economist or know much about business, but this made sense in my head. They play the blame game. Who cares? Everyone does it. We'll figure out who's to blame in court of whatever, but not defending yourself is a little dumb. I understand the stance on taking responsibility and the moral high road, and do wish they would, but who knows, maybe it wasn't their fault. Innocent until proven guilty, no? Did I mention that I get 5% off their gas? And that the station by my work is the cheapest one around me? I like British people, their accents are awesome. I sometimes call our contractors in the UK just to hear them so those wacky things. I also drive a MINI. Maybe I trust people too much, I'm not a big believer in conspiracys, but I can't logically justify boycotting them. FWIW, I'd consider myself an lazy environmentalist - I'm not super pro-active about saving the world, but I do support things being done like funding green energy, even if it means higher taxes or utility costs. And I use reuable shopping bags...unless I need to walk my gf's dog...then I get the plastic ones. |
| 2010-06-09 5:03 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
Pro 6767  the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I think the stronger argument for not boycotting them is that the person who experiences the most harm is the one furthest removed from responsibility of causing or solving the leak. The local businessperson who owns your local franchise. I don't specifically expect to boycott them, since I never used them before. Locally, I get my all my gas from Wawa, along with my coffee, hoagies, and re-fueling on long bike rides. |
| 2010-06-09 5:08 PM in reply to: #2911948 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Boycott BP gearboy - 2010-06-09 5:03 PM I think the stronger argument for not boycotting them is that the person who experiences the most harm is the one furthest removed from responsibility of causing or solving the leak. The local businessperson who owns your local franchise. I don't specifically expect to boycott them, since I never used them before. Locally, I get my all my gas from Wawa, along with my coffee, hoagies, and re-fueling on long bike rides. This. And thanks for reminding me how much I miss my Wawa Italian hoagie with provolone cheese, lettuce, onion, tomato, oil and oregano. Sigh. |
| 2010-06-09 5:09 PM in reply to: #2911948 |
Master 1572 Baltimore | Subject: RE: Boycott BP Very true. I actually meant to mention that I'm my point about bankrupcy and that someone will get shafted who doesn't deserve it but forgot. Thanks. And wawa for food, bp for gas for me. |
| 2010-06-09 5:28 PM in reply to: #2911958 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Boycott BP scoobysdad - 2010-06-09 6:08 PM gearboy - 2010-06-09 5:03 PM I think the stronger argument for not boycotting them is that the person who experiences the most harm is the one furthest removed from responsibility of causing or solving the leak. The local businessperson who owns your local franchise. I don't specifically expect to boycott them, since I never used them before. Locally, I get my all my gas from Wawa, along with my coffee, hoagies, and re-fueling on long bike rides. This. And thanks for reminding me how much I miss my Wawa Italian hoagie with provolone cheese, lettuce, onion, tomato, oil and oregano. Sigh. For the last month or so, I have been on a low salt diet to maintain my blood pressure. So I also miss my italian hoagies. Turkey hoagies are OK, but man, nothing beats a Wawa italian, with a side bag of Grandma Utz's chips stuffed in as well, to give it some crunch. ETA - apparently, even Johnny Knoxville is a fan...  Edited by gearboy 2010-06-09 5:39 PM |
| 2010-06-09 5:44 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I agree. I don't understand what message a boycott of B.P. sends. I don't know what kind of effect a boycott would have on their bottom line, but if we as consumers took money out of their pockets, wouldn't that take away from what we'd be able to get out of them to pay for the environmental damage they've caused? Once we get the money needed to pay for the clean-up, then I'd be happy bringing them to their knees...or, more likely, for them to get absorbed into another giant oil company. |
| 2010-06-09 7:05 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
Expert 1288 Hatboro, PA | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I never go to BP, anyway. There is only one BP that I pass regularly and it is right next to a Hess. The Hess usually has cheaper gas and is easier to into/out of, so the BP isn't a good option. However, like gearboy, I tend to go to Wawa's. They tend to have the cheapest gas in my area. And, they have clean bathrooms. |
| 2010-06-09 7:12 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: Boycott BP There is a gas station around the corner from me. I usually get my gas there. I have no idea what it is. They sell gas, pretty much. |
 2010-06-09 7:56 PM in reply to: #2912155 |
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| 2010-06-09 8:39 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
| Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I don't purposely avoid all BP stations but I have been avoiding the BP next to where I work since March. A 19yr old stopped to get gas at 2:30 AM and supposedly, a spark ignited gas fumes. The kid hit the ground and died as the station caught fire. Our security cameras caught some of it too. http://www.wgal.com/news/22750614/detail.html |
| 2010-06-09 8:59 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
| Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I agree - do not boycott BP - the company is under enough pressure right now that a boycott might push them over the edge which leaves no one to pay for cleanup and remediation... |
| 2010-06-09 9:17 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
| Expert 1051 Bradenton, Florida | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I have been "boycotting" BP ever since they introduced the Cash/Credit price difference. When they first started this policy it was only on a small sticker on the pump that said you would be charged .05 more per gallon for using a non-BP credit or debit card. If the big sign says $2.70 and you charge me $2.75, that's either bait & switch or robbery. |
| 2010-06-09 9:26 PM in reply to: #2912335 |
| Expert 968 Wellington, North Island | Subject: RE: Boycott BP cwpeters - 2010-06-09 9:17 PM I have been "boycotting" BP ever since they introduced the Cash/Credit price difference. When they first started this policy it was only on a small sticker on the pump that said you would be charged .05 more per gallon for using a non-BP credit or debit card. If the big sign says $2.70 and you charge me $2.75, that's either bait & switch or robbery. I don't think I've ever seen this at a BP in my area. I generally use whatever gas station is convenient, but when that's been a BP, the price on the board and on the pump before I choose my method of payment hasn't ever changed once I used a credit card that I can recall. And I don't have a BP credit card. |
| 2010-06-09 9:32 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
| Arch-Bishop of BT 10278 Pittsburgh | Subject: RE: Boycott BP yeah... BP isn't any worse than the others... they just happen to have the most visible problem right now.
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| 2010-06-09 9:35 PM in reply to: #2911934 |
| Expert 1690 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. |
| 2010-06-09 9:37 PM in reply to: #2912370 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. |
| 2010-06-09 9:41 PM in reply to: #2912373 |
| Expert 1690 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. |
| 2010-06-09 9:44 PM in reply to: #2912378 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. |
| 2010-06-09 9:54 PM in reply to: #2912380 |
| Expert 1690 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? |
| 2010-06-09 10:03 PM in reply to: #2912388 |
| Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 7:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? It is going to cost BP a lot more money to continue having it leak vs actually stopping the leak. I don't think they are holding back because they are well aware of this fact. If you research other such accidents you will find that it actually has taken this long to stop each and every one of them. |
| 2010-06-09 10:06 PM in reply to: #2912388 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? So you know you're not hurting BP, but you do it anyway? Huh? What you can do is not hurt people who have nothing to do with the current situation. |
| 2010-06-09 10:11 PM in reply to: #2912388 |
| Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? I don't see it as my place to "punish" BP STOCKHOLDERS (afterall, that is who is getting their butt handed to them financially) and besides big daddy Obama is threatening to get out the belt and whip'um good for all of us anyway... |
| 2010-06-09 10:13 PM in reply to: #2912410 |
| Expert 1690 | Subject: RE: Boycott BP ashort33 - 2010-06-09 11:11 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? I don't see it as my place to "punish" BP STOCKHOLDERS (afterall, that is who is getting their butt handed to them financially) and besides big daddy Obama is threatening to get out the belt and whip'um good for all of us anyway... I think it was the daily show that showed the clip of larry king asking obama if he was furious. Obama straight faced said "yes i am." glad hes so enthusiastic. |
| 2010-06-09 10:20 PM in reply to: #2912414 |
| Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: Boycott BP mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 10:13 PM ashort33 - 2010-06-09 11:11 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? I don't see it as my place to "punish" BP STOCKHOLDERS (afterall, that is who is getting their butt handed to them financially) and besides big daddy Obama is threatening to get out the belt and whip'um good for all of us anyway... I think it was the daily show that showed the clip of larry king asking obama if he was furious. Obama straight faced said "yes i am." glad hes so enthusiastic. Its hard to see the anger when he is bee-bopping with Paul McCartney and friends |
| 2010-06-09 10:21 PM in reply to: #2912410 |
| Extreme Veteran 1996 Halifax, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Boycott BP ashort33 - 2010-06-10 12:11 AM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:54 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:44 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:41 PM DerekL - 2010-06-09 10:37 PM mkarr0110 - 2010-06-09 9:35 PM I Boycott BP gas because i dont feel they are using all of their resources to stop the leak. I think they are trying to stop the leak while preserving the well. Not buying food etc at a bp gas station hurts the owner of the station not bp at all. Ummm, no. If you're not buying gas from a BP station, you're hurting the station owner and not BP. BP isn't in the retail business anymore. not what i said, i just made the point that the biggest part of the owners nut comes from food and bp profits very very little from that. Ok, and my point is that nothing you're going to do is going to affect BP one way or another, but you will affect small business owners instead. Thats exactly why, I have no other outlet to try and punish bp, so i punish what i can. Is it right, of course not, but what can do you do in a situation where you feel powerless? I don't see it as my place to "punish" BP STOCKHOLDERS (afterall, that is who is getting their butt handed to them financially) and besides big daddy Obama is threatening to get out the belt and whip'um good for all of us anyway... I'd say the fisherman and tourist industry folks with their related infrastructure workers are the ones really being hurt. Few BP shareholders would have those stocks generating their primary income |
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