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2016-06-15 9:08 AM

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With all the crazy good cyclists that train around where I live, this surely won't last, but still..I'm pumped! With cycling always being my weak link, this is a big breakthrough to me. All that time suffering on the trainer this winter was apparently worth it. This also makes me realize two things; one is how insanely fast pros are...my max effort on 14 miles wouldn't compare to the pros IM paces and they go on to run sub 3:00 marathons after. And second; a sub 1-hour 40k is still likely out of reach considering this was just half the distance and I still didn't hit the pace, but I'm getting there. Here's to training with power!

ETA: the pressure sensor on my 920xt is not working...the entire ride wasn't done at 22,000+ feet of elevation, and it wasn't *that* flat.

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2016-06-15 9:11 AM
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Awesome!

2016-06-15 9:11 AM
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Awesome. Way to go!
2016-06-15 9:19 AM
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nice job and I can certainly feel your pain as I have a medal winning Olympian who seems to ride all the same routes I do. I am still no where near any of those KOM's
2016-06-15 9:23 AM
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Great stuff!

2016-06-15 9:49 AM
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Congrats!!

Yep, there are some folks out there that will consistently destroy my best effort. I'll keep going back for more though. I guess I am a glutten for punishment.



2016-06-15 10:11 AM
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To the OP - congrats! No small thing...

One thing I'd like to understand about Strava KOM's is how it accounts for riders who were in pelotons vs. solo riders. If I'm on my tri rig, I'm doing 100% of the work. Lots of the names I see on local KOM's are roadies who are usually in a group; not exactly an apple/apple comparison about the effort on a segment.

Small question for a slow Wednesday in the office...

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2016-06-15 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by alltom1

One thing I'd like to understand about Strava KOM's is how it accounts for riders who were in pelotons vs. solo riders. If I'm on my tri rig, I'm doing 100% of the work. Lots of the names I see on local KOM's are roadies who are usually in a group; not exactly an apple/apple comparison about the effort on a segment.

Small question for a slow Wednesday in the office...


That's actually why I targeted this one. It's the longest one I found in my area and roadies just don't have the attention span for long steady efforts . Looking at the top 10 spots, it looks like all solo efforts based on the power. Actually of the top 10 spots, I was one of the lowest in power. There is another segment within this one where the KOM averaged close to 26 mph on 199 watts...that screams peloton to me. Also, the other issue here is weather conditions, for any of the point to point segments it's more of the wind than anything. Again, this one is a loop so that's also out of the equation. I wouldn't bother with the shorter point to point segments for these very reasons.
2016-06-15 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by 3mar
Originally posted by alltom1 One thing I'd like to understand about Strava KOM's is how it accounts for riders who were in pelotons vs. solo riders. If I'm on my tri rig, I'm doing 100% of the work. Lots of the names I see on local KOM's are roadies who are usually in a group; not exactly an apple/apple comparison about the effort on a segment. Small question for a slow Wednesday in the office...
That's actually why I targeted this one. It's the longest one I found in my area and roadies just don't have the attention span for long steady efforts . Looking at the top 10 spots, it looks like all solo efforts based on the power. Actually of the top 10 spots, I was one of the lowest in power. There is another segment within this one where the KOM averaged close to 26 mph on 199 watts...that screams peloton to me. Also, the other issue here is weather conditions, for any of the point to point segments it's more of the wind than anything. Again, this one is a loop so that's also out of the equation. I wouldn't bother with the shorter point to point segments for these very reasons.

If you are just trying to determine if it was a group effort ?  You can click on the person who has the KOM and see if other people they follow are on the same ride.  They'll show up on that persons activity. 

2016-06-15 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Goggles Pizzano

Originally posted by 3mar
Originally posted by alltom1 One thing I'd like to understand about Strava KOM's is how it accounts for riders who were in pelotons vs. solo riders. If I'm on my tri rig, I'm doing 100% of the work. Lots of the names I see on local KOM's are roadies who are usually in a group; not exactly an apple/apple comparison about the effort on a segment. Small question for a slow Wednesday in the office...
That's actually why I targeted this one. It's the longest one I found in my area and roadies just don't have the attention span for long steady efforts . Looking at the top 10 spots, it looks like all solo efforts based on the power. Actually of the top 10 spots, I was one of the lowest in power. There is another segment within this one where the KOM averaged close to 26 mph on 199 watts...that screams peloton to me. Also, the other issue here is weather conditions, for any of the point to point segments it's more of the wind than anything. Again, this one is a loop so that's also out of the equation. I wouldn't bother with the shorter point to point segments for these very reasons.

If you are just trying to determine if it was a group effort ?  You can click on the person who has the KOM and see if other people they follow are on the same ride.  They'll show up on that persons activity. 




Well geez...yeah, if you want to go and make it all simple...
2016-06-15 10:42 AM
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Just trying to free you up for more ride time.  That and pre bedtime dance parties. 



2016-06-15 11:25 AM
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This was my last hard effort before starting a taper...so there will be dancing...lots of dancing (probably more frantic than rhythmic as the nervous energy builds).

So to alltom1's point, I wonder why Strava doesn't have two categorizes (Peloton vs solo)? It'd be easy enough to automate.

Another thought on Strava; they have CRs for running and KOMs for biking, why not have pool records for swimming? Check in what pool you're in when you start a workout and they could save the fastest 50, 100, 500, 1,500 etc....
2016-06-15 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by 3mar This was my last hard effort before starting a taper

Don't know what you're tapering for, but there's a 40k TT this weekend....ijs

2016-06-15 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by ligersandtions

Originally posted by 3mar This was my last hard effort before starting a taper

Don't know what you're tapering for, but there's a 40k TT this weekend....ijs




I'm doing the Buffalo Springs 70.3 the week after. I was almost tempted to do the 40k but I'm just starting to feel good about myself on the bike, I don't need to see what actual fast cyclists do right now.
2016-06-15 12:42 PM
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Nice, I think I might win my driveway.   That's about it

2016-06-15 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by 3mar This was my last hard effort before starting a taper...so there will be dancing...lots of dancing (probably more frantic than rhythmic as the nervous energy builds). So to alltom1's point, I wonder why Strava doesn't have two categorizes (Peloton vs solo)? It'd be easy enough to automate. Another thought on Strava; they have CRs for running and KOMs for biking, why not have pool records for swimming? Check in what pool you're in when you start a workout and they could save the fastest 50, 100, 500, 1,500 etc....

My guess would be all the Olympians who would post swim times that were close to, if not world records.  Similar to all the KOM's that were done in cars or my favorite...planes.  When a coworker showed me his strava activities after a vacation last year it was comical all the KOMs by these insanely fast people who are able to ride from the east coast to the west coast in only a few hours.   Or maybe just fear the strava terrorists will take it over. 

You're about to start tapering ?  Should we expect the bizarre threads topics to start popping up ?

 



2016-06-15 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Goggles Pizzano

You're about to start tapering ?  Should we expect the bizarre threads topics to start popping up ?

 




nah...I think I ran out of material.

I could do a "guess my 70.3 time" thread maybe. It's been quiet here lately.

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Originally posted by 3mar
Originally posted by Goggles Pizzano You're about to start tapering ?  Should we expect the bizarre threads topics to start popping up ?

 

nah...I think I ran out of material. I could do a "guess my 70.3 time" thread maybe. It's been quiet here lately.

Cue it up

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Good Job!
2016-06-15 8:17 PM
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Originally posted by 3mar This was my last hard effort before starting a taper

Don't know what you're tapering for, but there's a 40k TT this weekend....ijs

I'm doing the Buffalo Springs 70.3 the week after. I was almost tempted to do the 40k but I'm just starting to feel good about myself on the bike, I don't need to see what actual fast cyclists do right now.

I think a 40k TT one week out from Buffalo Springs would be a perfect taper!  Keep the intensity but drop the volume  You know you want to!  And really, who cares what "actual fast cyclists" do?  It's about gauging your improvements....plus, real cyclists don't have to balance swimming and running, so we have a built in excuse

Buffalo Springs is a great race!  Hardest race I've ever done....but I would definitely do it again.  Hope you enjoy it.  Be prepared for hot and windy conditions....but it should be a nice break from the humidity.  But what happened to your plan to race in only flat locations?

2016-06-15 9:31 PM
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Originally posted by ligersandtions

plus, real cyclists don't have to balance swimming and running, so we have a built in excuse

ROFL!  



2016-06-15 9:36 PM
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Based on what I saw on Strava, Eric Larson the former KOM lives in Virginia now. I doubt he will come back to reclaim his title. It also doesn't look like a real active loop since Minh Tran is the only other one this month that has done it. He averaged 18.4 so it doesn't sound like he's gunning for you. This may be one of those KOM's that stands for a long time. Congratulations. 24.9 mph is a pretty fast speed. I bet you break an hour for 40K.

I've done the Buffalo springs bike course a few times. It will probably be really hot and windy this year. If you train in Houston, the dry heat around Lubbock will feel like nothing to you. Just stay well hydrated. The course is over 3000ft. Most people will not feel any altitude effect at all. Some people are incredibly sensitive to it. Good luck.
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Congrats! It's such a rad feeling to bag one in a high talent density area. I had my first one for all of a week until a pro visiting for the IM 70.3 oceanside crushed it on a "training ride", and I cried all day.

Those are some nice numbers you posted. Solid work!



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Thanks everyone, for the congrats. It wasn't long ago that averaging over 20 mph on a flat windless course seemed like a lofty goal.

Originally posted by ligersandtions

But what happened to your plan to race in only flat locations?



Well, I've put a ton of training time in this winter and really haven't had anything to show for it. My first race was a bit of a cluster (bad seeding in pool swim and bad pacing) then my second race had the swim canceled which takes away my best discipline, so I really wanted to get out there. Sean (Jet Black on here) suggested we do it, so I said what the heck. It's only 1,000 ft of climbing and my 50-60 mile long rides range from 500-600 which feel pancake flat, so I’m not too worried about it. I'm looking forward to dry heat!
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Originally posted by ligersandtions

plus, real cyclists don't have to balance swimming and running, so we have a built in excuse

ROFL!



Oh yeah, I use this all the time. I was in the pool yesterday and the woman next to me was warming up at almost the pace of my 200 repeats. I just had to tell myself that she was probably a terrible runner .
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Based on what I saw on Strava, Eric Larson the former KOM lives in Virginia now. I doubt he will come back to reclaim his title. It also doesn't look like a real active loop since Minh Tran is the only other one this month that has done it. He averaged 18.4 so it doesn't sound like he's gunning for you. This may be one of those KOM's that stands for a long time. Congratulations. 24.9 mph is a pretty fast speed. I bet you break an hour for 40K.

I've done the Buffalo springs bike course a few times. It will probably be really hot and windy this year. If you train in Houston, the dry heat around Lubbock will feel like nothing to you. Just stay well hydrated. The course is over 3000ft. Most people will not feel any altitude effect at all. Some people are incredibly sensitive to it. Good luck.

Eric still lives here and the guy gets a KOM just looking at his bike. He is a beast. I'm hoping that considering he has an insane amount of KOMs he won't notice this one. Call me a purist, but to me, the only KOMs I'm interested in are loops (so wind and elevation don't play a role) that are at least 10 miles long, that aren't currently owned by someone riding in a peloton. Those are really hard to find. So if he takes this one back, I'll just have to work harder and try to regain it.
2016-06-16 1:02 PM
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that's a hugely fast speed for me.  congratulations KOM.  enjoy the glory... while it lasts.

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