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2016-12-06 9:15 AM


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Subject: ***Visual Awareness of Cyclists***
Hello Biking World,


I am a high school student who is working on an engineering project to fix the problem of visual awareness and safety of bikers. I compiled a list of questions that are related to the issue in order to give me a statistical analysis of how to solve my problem. The link to the survey is below. Thank You.


https://docs.google.com/a/k12.friscoisd.org/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSda9ana...


Sincerely,


James


2016-12-06 10:22 AM
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Done!d Takes maybe 1 minute . . .
2016-12-06 10:50 AM
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Tried to do it but requires sign-in to google account, which I do not have.
2016-12-06 2:17 PM
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Interesting survey.  I am a daily commuter that often has parts of their ride in the dark, during traffic hours as well as someone who trains during normal daylight hours.  I didn't realize how much I've actually spent on lights, but there is no way I would commute this time of year without them.  Just yesterday my rear tail light died and I was forced to drive to work.  I ended up buying another light from the LBS, ordering another one online, and filing for a warranty replacement of the broken light.  Goal being to have a minimum of two lights with me at all times, and possibly 3 if the warranty comes through (which it should).  I already have two headlights with me.

All that being said, assuming a cyclist does have lights on them, I still think the biggest problem regarding "visual awareness of cyclists" is in relation to the drivers around us and how much attention the pay to non vehicles on the road.  I know I was this way as a driver before I started riding.  If you were not a car without two tail lights in front of me, I didn't really pay much attention to anything else.  Drivers need to be scanning more of the road ahead of them and make assumptions that there may be a cyclist in the shoulder ahead that may possibly have to come back into the lane if the shoulder narrows.  There are many times when I commute where I see drivers in the right lane that drift over the solid white line and in the shoulder because they assume it doesn't matter.  

I truly believe that most drivers who hit or have close calls with cyclists aren't a-holes...they are just not as attentive as they should be because they don't know what it's like to be on a bike with traffic.

2016-12-06 4:52 PM
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Thank You for all of your help!!
2016-12-07 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Jason N

Interesting survey.  I am a daily commuter that often has parts of their ride in the dark, during traffic hours as well as someone who trains during normal daylight hours.  I didn't realize how much I've actually spent on lights, but there is no way I would commute this time of year without them.  Just yesterday my rear tail light died and I was forced to drive to work.  I ended up buying another light from the LBS, ordering another one online, and filing for a warranty replacement of the broken light.  Goal being to have a minimum of two lights with me at all times, and possibly 3 if the warranty comes through (which it should).  I already have two headlights with me.

All that being said, assuming a cyclist does have lights on them, I still think the biggest problem regarding "visual awareness of cyclists" is in relation to the drivers around us and how much attention the pay to non vehicles on the road.  I know I was this way as a driver before I started riding.  If you were not a car without two tail lights in front of me, I didn't really pay much attention to anything else.  Drivers need to be scanning more of the road ahead of them and make assumptions that there may be a cyclist in the shoulder ahead that may possibly have to come back into the lane if the shoulder narrows.  There are many times when I commute where I see drivers in the right lane that drift over the solid white line and in the shoulder because they assume it doesn't matter.  

I truly believe that most drivers who hit or have close calls with cyclists aren't a-holes...they are just not as attentive as they should be because they don't know what it's like to be on a bike with traffic.

Agree with the above.  Also, there are certain situations that drivers take for granted that are very dangerous to cyclists.  For example, turning right on a red light, or turning right into a driveway without checking the bike lane first.  Opening the driver-side door on a parallel parked car into the bike lane is another one I see all the time.



2016-12-07 3:11 PM
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Do you think the weather, time of year, and season contribute to this problem?
2016-12-09 1:53 PM
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I do make sure I use adequate lighting (front and rear) when I cycle in dismal or dark conditions...however,

In my experience, I think impaired or distracted drivers are different than the norm.

Drunk or drug impaired drivers tend to "lock on" to bright lights and may even hit you simply because they are drawn like bugs to your light.
I'm not sure what to do about that, but it seems to be a tendency.

As for distracted drivers, nothing will save you if they looking are down at the phone.



Edited by metafizx 2016-12-09 2:02 PM
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