The press and the new administration (Page 2)

They ARE researching solutions. They're researching effective technologies to capture CO2 or reduce CO2 emissions, because current controls are very expensive. And all of those grants and funding just went poof, overnight. Being on the cutting edge of this and renewable energy would position the US well into the future, cutting research hurts us in the long run. 

I also don't really get why everyone seems to think the EPA is only in the climate control business. They do everything from ensure that we are drinking clean water, to making sure cars and other industries are not polluting. My state released a statement last night that they're trying to get to the bottom of this baffling order because it is affecting the state department of health's ability to do their every day operations insuring clean water. I'm horrified that our president doesn't seem to be able to grasp the complexity of the organization, and seems to be saying, "eh, climate change, shut it down!"

I'll see if I can dig it up, but there is satellite imagery at different times of year based on the agricultural harvest cycle which is mostly across the bread belt in North America and Europe.  The CO2 swings are immediately obvious to a glance.  If you want a good visual example that man can / does have an effect on his environment in a global fashion, that is one.

But if you really want the details you have to do the reading like I mentioned in my previous post.

A good thing to keep in mind.  All you need to do is take a look at the air quality in Beijing to better appreciate what we have and should strive to keep here in North America.

As I have said before....I don't worry about the Earth, it will be just fine.  Humans, who inhabit the top rung of life on Earth now, have a bleak future here.  The Earth's future is the same as it ever was.  Man will not change that.  IMO, It is the absolute height of human arrogance to think otherwise.

All I know from my short time here is that Nature can, and does, destroy all of mankind's greatest buildings/creations in a virtual blink of an eye of it's total history.  Do we think the Earth needs mankind?  Do we think it cares at all?  As the human population continues to grow and plunder the Earth for it's own survival we get closer to the day when the Earth just shakes us off.....the same as it has for any species that was no longer able to be sustained.  Once it does, how could it not rejuvenate? We are nothing but a composition of those basic elements.  Have you ever seen a forest that has regrown after being cut down? Water that is now clean after years of pollution?

Again, I laugh every time someone says "we need to save the Earth".........I bet the Earth does too.  It's not going anywhere......we are.

We should get back to the topic of the press......because unless you don't drive, don't heat your home, don't eat, and don't breathe you are just part of the problem......like it or not.

My bad, I totally started it with the climate change, lol. I posted that story in this thread because I thought the gag order fit in with the attack on the press. It's an overall pattern that the administration wants to limit the quantity and content of information coming out of our government. I find it worrying.

Well back on that topic:

https://twitter.com/altnatparkser

I've been following that all day - those guys are my new favorite people. Ha!

Stacers......limiting the quantity and content of information coming out is the #1 function of govt.  How do you think the people in charge keep their jobs as long as they do?  I'm not calling you naive because I don't know you.....but c'mon, you can't possibly think that any govt. agency is fully transparent and doesn't limit information.  That's just not real life.  This has been going on since govts. were formed.  The current administration is no better or worse than any other in that regard.....including Obama's.

Yes!  Now that's perfect!

I'm not sure what misinformation I provided.  Perhaps you can point it out.

I don't see how any sane person can believe that climate scientists are not under any pressure.  Did you read the article I posted above?  A climate scientist just went a little out of line and suggested that things weren't as dire as some were saying and he was fired.  
It's not a matter of them doing things for money, it's a matter of doing them so they don't lose their jobs.  There are hundreds of climate scientists who are all labeled and mocked as "deniers" because they chose principle over politics and lost their jobs.

I know you're a firm believer in the religion of global warming and there's little I can do to convince you otherwise, but that doesn't change the truth. 

It's entertaining, but I'm not sure what they think they're going to make happen by being disrespectful to the POTUS.  They might as well be wearing vagina costumes and walking on the streets because that's about how much good it will do.  
There's an old saying about shooting yourself in the foot.  You have an administration that essentially wants to eliminate your entire department, so convincing them to do so isn't the smartest thing in the world.  Just saying.  

***edit***  disregard, I thought that was a legit national parks twitter.  OK, it's just funny then.  

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME.  POTUS is trying to destroy our environment.  We will fight him everywhere.

Dave....since I already l know you and like you, and you are gainfully employed unlike many enviroterrorists.......and if you don't already have yourself promised to someone....can you hold out for a few years and marry my daughter when she is 18?  I just know she's going to show up one day with a kid who hasn't washed his dreads in 2 years and travels the country protesting.  You could save me from that.  You and her will get along famously....and if you need more convincing I could probably scrape together a nice chunk of change to help you make up your mind. (I may even consider paying off your student loans depending how far off the cliff she falls in the next 2 years)

Thanks in advance,

Dad